[KR416] Keiser Report: Bitcoin Millionaires vs Paper Billionaires

We discuss both the Dow and bitcoin hitting an all time high as the Fed continues to print $85 billion per month for Wall Street handouts whilst the sequester cuts $85 billion from services to the poor, the elderly and soldiers. They also talk about house prices tripling to all time highs in Hong Kong (thanks to quantitative easing) whilst ‘surreal’ ghost cities are built in mainland China but which nobody can afford and about how incomes in America are collapsing – thanks to quantitative easing. In the second half of the show, Max Keiser talks to Charles Hugh Smith of OfTwoMinds.com about both socialism and capitalism leading to debtism.

294 comments on “[KR416] Keiser Report: Bitcoin Millionaires vs Paper Billionaires
  1. Vonda Bra says:



    usawatchdog- Greg Hunter – 10.03.2013

    Dr. Jim Willie of GoldenJackass.com says, “Europe is on the verge of collapse.” When it does, Dr. Willie says a new “Gold Trade Finance System” is already in place to take over for the dollar. Dr. Willie’s sources say, “The trade finance system has already agreed on a gold price of $7,000 to $8,000. Silver would be $150 to $200 per ounce.” Join Greg Hunter as he goes One-on-One with Dr. Jim Willie.

    http://youtu.be/RhyfwjdYqzo (24:12)



    It was such a surprise when I was the only Rothschild to die in the Holocaust. Young George Soros was kind enough to store my valuables as I went into theshower,but then he was born a Roman Catholic, like me. Or so he says!

  3. Doreen and Dennis Shannon says:

    We see Westminster and Rothschild and the BBC are still unable to explain what went wrong in 2008!

    How mysterious that the culprits in the London Riots were found in hours but our government and fourth estate can`t pin the blame for 2008 on anyone at all?

    Never give a Goy sucker an even break?

  4. Dimbleby says:

    Yes it`s strange that we investigative BBC Mandarins for Zion never could get to the bottom of 2008?

    Perhaps we should invite more Zionist financiers onto our programmes for advice?

    After all, Israel always seems effortlessly prosperous,whatever happens to other nations around the World.

    Perhaps Britain should employ Israeli economic policies?

  5. Gideon Osborne says:

    What a good idea to emulate Lady Porter`s prosperous Israel where Mr Murdoch runs their free media without the expense of a left wing BBC!

    I bet austerity is really tight in Israel and the USA now their economies are such a wonderful success.

  6. Lord Leveson says:

    No wonder the British Empire collapse entirely in a century with a dreadful scurrilous free press like this on Max Keiser`s blog.

    I am sure fine upright journalists like Ian Hislop and Conrad Black and Rupert Murdoch and Robert Maxwell and Mr Desmond and the Barclay Brothers and Cardinal Patten et al……would never allow the memory of Page Three girls and Millie Dowler to be sullied by fascist pornographic Zionist rubbish like this!

  7. MirrorMirror says:


    Why don’t they take ALL our money and just give us Food Stamps !?

    Welcome back to the DDR :

    Germany : Self-employed and civil servants to save pension fund


    Civil Servants .. Yes
    Self employed .. No

  8. YoLithos says:

    @Palantír – Re : Bitcoin
    Please, read (view) all the Bitcoin lit. & primers- until you understand it. You haven’t. Stop being lazy and wanting others to do your work for you. You’re spouting gibberish. And maybe being derisive. If not snide. Like a lot of others, around here.

    Or, are the same billionaire overlords that demand warming and climate change denial, also demanding bitcoin bashing from their serfs and lesser vassals ? Turning their words on the matter, likewise, into smoke?

  9. Vonda Bra says:


    Death Threats and Hiatus – Josh van der Meulen – 11.03.2013

    http://youtu.be/qvk63O5A15o (2:12)


  10. Klaxon says:

    Ya’ll have been asleep at the wheel. President Barack Obama is the quintessential Uncle Tom. Hell, he’s more Uncle Tom than the original character portrayed in the 1800’s novel. We had to wait 150 years to meet the living embodiment, the physical manifestation of something right out of a Mark Twain novel. Obama is desperate to win the favor and acceptance of those who despise him and will do anything, including screwing everyone who isn’t in the elite, white circles of the world. He wants the banksters to love him. He wants the Pentagon to love him. He wants Republicans to accept him as the legitimate winner of elections and keeps talking about stupid supply side and right wing ideas. He wants the oil companies to love him. He only gives speeches to elite black folk currently enrolled in college, never to a group of out of work black folk in the ghetto. Obama is a corporatist Uncle Tom from Harvard.

  11. Ptah says:

    Greetings Keisertrons: Off topic question…. what is the opposite of irrational exuberance.. any suggestions?

  12. aleksy says:

    “Never give a Goy sucker an even break”—–

    The zionist mantra. What every good little Jew is taught from the time (s)he can begin to comprehend language/thought.

  13. evolutis says:

    @Ptah … Information and Energy /
    Information and energy begets knowledge to access fresh[always in fashion] information and energy. It seems it is a knowledge based system of constant, renovation.

    … Misinformation [irrational exuberance] begets a disconnect from information and energy, knowledge is set aside and no matter the redundancy of the interval, the disconnected life form fails. Ask the DODO

  14. Palantír says:

    @YoLithos – Since you didn’t notice, I was pointing out that BitCoin is pricing itself out of use for the lay person, the ones I think it should be aimed at – not the high rollers. With exchange rates that high ($45 to 1bitcoin) you won’t get normal people shifting over to it, using it, spreading it, making it grow. And since you also didn’t notice, I like BitCoin, I want to be able to use it, it is a great alternative. So get of your high horse and open your eyes, see it for what it is not what you want it to be.

  15. susan says:


    ya beat me re JW!!

  16. Ptah says:

    @evolutis yeh thanks – I ran that through google translater and it blew up… anyone else? The best I can suggest is Rational Prolapse!

  17. Vonda Bra says:

    @ susan | March 11, 2013 at 10:54 pm |
    yeah, it was high time he talked to us again!
    I wanted it!… and there he was .. 🙂

  18. Jayme says:


    FWIW, Bitcoins are divisible to 0.00000001 so the maximum supply of bitcoin ‘chips’ (is a bit coin chip called a ‘bitch’? 😉 ) for a total of 2,100,000,000,000,000 ‘bitches’ that will ever be produced. I don’t see any reason the fraction couldn’t be made smaller.

    The ideals of bitcoin sound good but it still doesn’t prevent hoarding and, like the scarcity of metal, by bet is that someone will try to hoard and screw up this system too (?). This site tries to dispel many of the concerns:


  19. YoLithos says:

    Bitcoin is negotiable in fractions. It was planned that way since the beginning. Go do some homework. Stop wasting bandwith.

  20. YoLithos says:

    Thanks. Only read that later.
    Bitcoin needs darknets to protect itself from internet killswitches. That will only happen … in many ways. 🙂
    Hoarding is a function of supply control. The East India Co. opium offensive agains China is a standard model. Crowd action is something of a defense. “Radioactive” bitcoins could be another. Criticality could induce ex-im-plosions. Big packets of a feather, too close together …. ditto. The smart folk can and probably will think up nifty little storms to nuke the wannabe Smaugs, out there.

  21. YoLithos says:

    The legends say that nukes can only be launched by a very heavily coded, very intensely verified, corroborated, supervised, countersigned chain-of-comand. Ending in at least two buttons at different stations being simultaneously pressed.

    The opposite of a darknet internet could be a “lightnet”. Expanding the above concept. Like Bitcoin. Serious decisions would have to be multiply authorized, heavily supervised, and corroborated … etc. No draghys (draco?), or other such. Crowd adminned. Crowdmoderated. Special protocols for rogue AI takeovers. 🙂

  22. Curious says:

    I wonder, is hoarding of Bitcoin a real problem? At the current state of Bitcoin’s development, isn’t growing the adoption base the most important thing? Shouldn’t hoarders be welcomed as much as anyone else? Shouldn’t people be free to do with their Bitcoins whatever they wish? Isn’t that kind of the point?

  23. evolutis says:

    Meanwhile back @ pm ranch … so …” gold trade notes” issued by the “gold finance system”[are we to assume this outfit the new bureaucracy?] in exchange for money, issues these, short term , kinda letters of credit notes … all[to borrow from Yolithos] “can only be launched by a very heavily coded, very intensely verified, corroborated, supervised, countersigned chain-of-comand. Ending in at least two buttons at different stations being simultaneously pressed.” Sweet tongue in cheek jesus!… is there one of little yellow smiley faced circles that blushes?

  24. YoLithos says:

    Hoarding kills. Hoarding is poverty multiplied. Hoarding depletes the resource. That makes it costlier. Hoarding is, in effect, depriving others from access to a share of the resource. It is depriving them of ownership and fungibility. It is, therefor, theft.

    Bitcoin, unfortunately, at present (superficially) seems to be susceptible to forms of hoarding. Perhaps, even, extreme hoarding. The community will, no doubt, take the issue in hand. Sooner or later.

  25. Vonda Bra says:

    @ ronron | March 12, 2013 at 12:27 am |

    yeah, I know 😀 … I posted this before …and warned Wolferl not to get caught up in this place, when he will go on a short trip to Rome … 🙂
    go to: http://maxkeiser.com/2013/03/11/whats-more-important-to-you-italy-or-the-dow/#comments

  26. Silver Vs Bitcoin says:

    Max& Stacy,
    Would you rather have a bitcoin or a 1 ounce silver coin? Or 1 bitcoin or 1 gold ounce? Your latest podcast makes it seem like bitcoins are, without a question, better than gold & silver. Ill take silver or gold.

  27. Curious says:

    Dear YoLithos,

    How can something that is infinitely divisible be subject to resource depletion? It seems the same argument as a price of $50 per Bitcoin pricing people out of owning any, when in fact 0.00000001 of a $50 Bitcoin can be bought for $0.00000050. I can understand feeling envious of those who dared to accumulate Bitcoin when they were worth far less than they are now, but I wouldn’t categorize people who purchased or mined Bitcoins at a much lower cost and hung on to them as thieves. Maybe you can explain it to me in a way I can easily understand? I would appreciate it.

  28. Hondo Stalwart says:

    Bitcoin to $500 now … and next year?

  29. Simon K says:

    I must disagree on the value of bitcoin.
    1- not private nor anonymous: you have to fill a form detailing your life if you want to buy bitcoins on Mt.Gox or any other site. The NSA is loving it.
    2- it helps the banks: with bitcoin, you have created another mean by which dollars are soaked up like a sponge. The millions and millions you “win” with bitcoin, are nothing but millions and millions of dollars waiting to be converted – and printed. You’re helping Jamie since the money created out of thin air by bitcoin apreciation, it’s nothing but another way to sparkle inflation.
    3- it’s no diferent than the platinum trillion dollar coin: you break that coin in 21 million pieces and you’ve got bitcoin.
    4- it diverges money that should otherwise be channeled to precious metals. Jamie is loving it.
    5- strong dollar=strong bitcoin. What does that tells you?
    In sum: no way bitcoin is going to be part of my portfolio. I don’t want to be complicit with JP morgan and Goldman, even if that makes me a “bitcoin millionaire”.

  30. Jayme says:

    People die and hardware fails. Eventually, in one way or another, many bitcoins will be lost. There is a half-life to this currency that no one has bothered to compute yet (I smell a graduate thesis).

    As bitcoins go out of existence, in an anonymous system, no one would really know the true value of their bitcoins. The existing bitcoins become more valuable as there will eventually be too little money chasing too many goods. If bitcoins become more valuable, then the value of the currency that goes out of circulation gets redistributed inequitably up the wealth scale to those who have hoarded the most wealth. Anyway, needless to say, there’s still too much I don’t understand or trust.

    I suppose the point is that the longevity of digital is dubious and currency is not something to be hoarded in a fair system. I also have concerns about the artificial scarcity. This makes for a good Austrian currency but may not be flexible enough to help during disaster or allow growth in areas where the money is needed. Perhaps other bitcoin-like equivalents ‘mined’ strictly for these occasions? (my head hurts – money and currency should not be confusing.)

  31. Youri Carma says:

    @Vonda Bra

    Are you following anything on the developments in Italy with Beppe Grillo and forming a new government at all?

    Grillo’s Party to Tell Italy President It Can Lead Government

    I think it’s all a big joke (he’s a comedian after all) and that he never will be able to form any new government. He will be quietly put to the sidelines babbling on about his non-stand points about notin!

    Beppe Grillo’s success is not a rejection of austerity

  32. Youri Carma says:

    @Vonda Bra

    He’s gonna go off like a crying baby saying that it’s not his fault he couldn’t form a new government but that the other parties are to blame. He’s a cowardly dictator within his own ‘party’ who will try to escape any outside responsibility.

  33. Gary says:

    Please go visit Dr. Steven Greer’s websites http://www.disclosureproject.org/ and http://cseti.org/. Also listen to his talks and presentations on visits by ET’s. He’s a really intelligent and sane person who shows videos that absolutely prove that we are visited often. Just look at his videos. He’s also an expert on the power elite in the US and the world. After listening to him Max and Stacy will get a different perspective on the universe. I would highly suggest you get Dr. Greer on The Keiser Report. You two will have a great rapport.

  34. Youri Carma says:

    Societe Generale: 10-year Treasury yields at 2.75% by end of 2013

    Bond rally shows fresh signs of fatigue – Yields on 10-year note break above 2%; how far will rates rise? http://www.marketwatch.com/story/bond-rally-shows-fresh-signs-of-fatigue-2013-03-11

  35. Vonda Bra says:

    @ Youri Carma

    you offered 2 links …

    the first one is an MSM-establishment-status quo-source, that you seem to consider great stuff (CNBC?) .. apart from this, it tells absolutely nothing new.

    your second link is written by a Mario Monti-supporter, that praises Krugman (sic!)
    Disclaimer reads:
    “Marco Simoni serves in the “Scelta Civica” movement led by Mario Monti.”

    are you kidding?? 😀 .. are these your arguments? on which side are you anyway?
    if this is where you mostly gather your information from, only to dump it here… it makes me think that probably you are a big joke!? 🙂 … sorry!
    can we expect more loads of “Bloomberg-links” ..etc. from you any minute now?

    What are you up to Youri Carma?

    Please, Stop manipulating people!!! … stop misusing this site for your Propaganda pieces
    and subversive and aggressive wannabe- “predictions” … PLEASE !!! 🙁


  36. Youri Carma says:

    Global growth is burning out and fading away
    Economic gains are limited, but investors don’t know it yet

    Commercial, apartment debt grows most since 2008

    Oil tops $92 after late-session turn higher

  37. Youri Carma says:

    @Vonda Bra

    This CNBC Link thanks to your Big Buddy Beppe Grillo who seems rather eager to come on the U.S. MSM while he refuses to come on the Italian MSM!?? And on my info presented: I was rather hoping that you would come up with some Links regarding Beppe Grillo Von Bra!

    “can we expect more loads of “Bloomberg-links” ..etc. from you any minute now?” – STFU Von Bra!

    “What are you up to Youri Carma?”

    I am up to revealing your ignorance about world’s affairs and about Beppe Grillo’s in specific.

  38. Vonda Bra says:

    @ Youri Carma | March 12, 2013 at 3:35 am |

    I´ve been posting endless links and YT interviews here … while the debate was on ..
    and on several threads here…
    you could have taken advantage of them, but you didn´t!

    who´s deep ignorance here just has been revealed, seems obvious! people can read!
    your posting Mario Monti-supporter propaganda pieces here?
    Why is that???
    please stop that BS Youri Carma! Please!

  39. SAO says:

    Just ignore it. Keep on doing what you do so well.

  40. The C says:

    “Major financial catastrophe” prediction was Bitcoin going up in value? You are a con, Max Keiser. A month to go for your currency crisis and you fall back on this Bitocin rubbish as the answer because you know real collapse is happening in the next month?!

  41. SAO says:

    How the Markets Are Manipulated by James Corbett


  42. aleksy says:

    @Gary: thanks for the links to Dr. Greer’s site. Fascinating. since I first saw a Joshua Tree in Dec 1996 I hae thought they were ‘different’ but could not explain it..

  43. snoop diddy says:

    explains btc price action:


    News: Critical: Current Bitcoin network fork. Action needed by mining pools. Merchants should hold transactions.

    Alert: chain fork caused by pre-0.8 clients dealing badly with large blocks

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  45. aleksy says:

    @SAO: thx for the link on James Corbett. Very interesting reaad on gold /market manipulation(s). Have bookmarked it for further reading.

  46. Palantír says:

    @Jayme and @YoLithos – being able to subdivide the BitCoin into fragments or other smaller subunits does not make it any less costly.

  47. snoop diddy says:

    Obama to Expand “War on Terrorism”

  48. Rothschild Soros,CIA Inc of Tel Aviv and Bejing says:

    We remain mystified by the disappearance of the British Empire in just a single homicidal century while the Vatican,Germany,America and Israel all go from strength to strength! LOL!

    But around one hundred million lives in wars and genocides seems a small price to pay for a modern peaceful prosperous multi-racial globalised WORLD where equal opportunities dictate that Britain is run by a mixed race disparate group of white Hooray Henriettas and Henrys like Lady Porter Baroness Uddin Margaret Hodge Gideon Osborne David Cameron Borris Johnson Jack Straw Tony Bliar and their left wing Great Leader Barmy Bibi Nutteryaho and the surprisingly loyal “Friends of the Vatican,Israel and Global Financial Crime”

  49. Jayme says:

    @Palantír – true, but people who cannot afford whole bitcoins can afford the fractions called “satoshis”. Technically, it is supposed to act as a currency to buy everyday things but that market is less than approximately 0.002% the size of the real economy which I think is why Max is ranting that an individual bitcoin could conceivably go very high in value … depending on how deep the penetration into the global economy goes.

    The following is a list of online and real world businesses that currently accept Bitcoin.

    Bitcoin does undergo deflation as coins are lost or accidentally destroyed over time. This does make hoarders richer and poor people with only a few satoshis to their name relatively poorer.

  50. Rothschild Soros,CIA Inc of Tel Aviv and Bejing says:

    Of course the fact that all those mentioned have Jewish blood in their veins is easily explained by facing the simple truth that the 1% Jewish component of the human race are so much more intelligent and talented than you Goy shmucks who celebrated our Jewish superiority in the Marx Brothersfilms of the 1930`s just before you savagely murdered six million of us in the Holocaust!

    What are you Gentile fascist racist xenophobes LIKE?1!!

  51. Rothschild Soros,CIA Inc of Tel Aviv and Bejing says:


    WE are thinking of starting a British version of Bitcoin called Britcoin…. and using our CIA and NATO and organised crime to take over Jewry`s nice little Global Empire under Honest Uncle Sam and Adolf Soros and the Nazi Germans…..before the Palestians wipe out those poor little Jews huddled together in their racially pure and ultra-honest homeland of Israel!

    Our BBC have trialled our wildly successful multiculturalism experiment in Europe and assure the Israelis that it works perfectly …………so that Open Society Mr Soros andRT have been invited in by the Likud to turn Israel into another NYC and London during the next few months.

    What CAN go wrong?

    Signed…..Sir Robert Maxwell RIP!

  52. Rothschild Soros,CIA Inc of Tel Aviv and Bejing says:

    Anyone heard the tragic story of Ann Frank and the Holocaust? Yep? WE did that too.

    WE got ourselves wiped out for Hollywood dramatic effect ….so we could carry on taking YOU t the cleaners!! LOL!

  53. jarrollin says:

    @Ptah tempered critical-thinking

  54. Almighty God says:

    Don`t blame ME!

    I used the stories of Elijah,Jesus and even Karl Marx to warn you that RACISM and NATIONALISM and FALSE RELIGION and ROTHSCHILD would never work!

    Judaism and the Jews are nothing to do with “race” or me!

    The Human Race is now so intermarried that the bogus Israelites and New Yorkers and Londoners are just a collection of opportunistic CROOKS of all races!

  55. Almighty God says:

    Close their Synagogues and confiscate their stolen wealth and tell them to follow the sensible ideas of Clement Attlee ….who had just seven thousand pounds in his estate when he joined St Peter at the gates of MY HEAVEN!

  56. Almighty God with Lucifer INnc. says:

    And send Messrs Obama and Merkel and Soros and Rothschild and their CIA THUGS up to US for a much deserved little taste of their own medicine.

    Lucifer and Little Ann Frank and Sayyid Qutb and Victoria Climbie and the London Bombers and OsamaBin Laden and Aaron Swartz …..have used Gestapo/CIA torture ideas to devise for them the Multicultural Eternal Damnation they so richly deserve!


  57. Almighty God with Lucifer Inc. says:

    And tell the BBC`s Cardinal Patten and Sir Jimmy Savile and Rabbi Blue that GOD is not mocked…. even if the BANKRUPT so called Anti-Semitic Goy Shmucks of London ARE!!

  58. Jim Evans says:


    This seems to be the only place left on the WORLD I am allowed to express an obvious truth that we MUST investigate and tackle before the so called Jews start WW3 and another Holocaust across the World.

    We all think we KNOW why we are doomed but the do-gooders of the World have silenced us ALL from mentioning the root of the problem….which is overpopualtion and uncontrolled migration of MANKIND.

    The entire One Per Cent have many differences of attitudes and values and differences of perception among them but they KNOW that if we ever take a realistic and human approach to issues like population growth in relation to economic problems their whole racist fascist xenophobic power bases in Israel NYC and London will collapse and THEY will be bankrupt in a matter of days.

  59. MirrorMirror says:


    Monetary Education … in Germany !

    There is an increasing number of Germans getting an education on the criminal Fiat-Money System via Youtube. If there are any German Speakers here , this new 2 hour Education Video is a gem :

    ~Zur mehr ★gerechten Welt★ Mit nur ☆echtem Geld☆~
    2 hr. 5 mins.

    “To a more ‘Just World’ … with Real Money”

    The first speaker ( starts after the Satirical piece at the beginning @ ca. 8 mins ) explains the Fiat Banking System very slowly and clearly . Kennedy’s EO 11110 is mentioned – Kennedy wanting to return to Silver-Coinage – shortly before his assassination.

    A new party in Germany called “An alternative for Germany” , which has been formed by the main body of German Economic Intellectuals … that brought a Court Case against the Euro/EU/ESM contracts in Germany “Highest Constitutional Court” ( Bundesverfassungsgericht ).


  60. MirrorMirror says:

    [email protected] Education … in Germany !

    Forgot the link :


  61. Jim Evans says:

    For example..as a social worker and one time Socialist I KNOW that Britain would still be a prosperous and far less populated nation under people like Clement Attlee if Rothschild Soros and religious crazies of various kinds had not combined with the FASCIST Friends of Israel in Westminster and the BBC to utterly bankrupt us and flood us with unwanted migrants.

  62. Jim Evans says:

    NO ammount of Osbornist “growth” will solve our problems while International Jewry are allowed to run the World around a fascist Israeli Superpower that plays by one set of rules while Global Jewry apply totally different rules to the ninety nine per cent of Mankind!

    If an immigrant can`t get in to ISRAEL why should the JEWS be allowed to dump them in my neighbourhood?

  63. Jim Evans says:

    Of course we don`t want a re-run of the horrors of the last century ….so would Rothschild and his criminal tribe PLEASE stop it happening NOW!!

  64. Jim Evans says:

    Erlin Ibreck I give you a final warning to get clear of Wall Street Israel and the Demon Dwarf Soros and his CIA Gestapo ………because anyone associated with Neo-Liberal Neo-Colonial Jewish Nazisim is about to find out that investments and fortunes can go seriously DOWN as well as fraudulently UP!

  65. Jim Evans says:

    And the way to start is by siezing the entire wealth of the one per cent of Mankind who hold it now and insisting that they make a reasoned principled CASE for us handing it back to them.

    No need for bloodshed or cruelty of any kind!

  66. Ptah says:

    @jarrollin – … thoughtful… mmmm, thanks for your input…

  67. Adolf Netanyahu @the BBC says:

    Pths HUMBUG! Give me that goose back Bob Cratchit and away with you to China or Gaza or Haiti or the Falkland`s Islands and beat the aboriginal people to death for me!

    The Zionist Empire was not ever built on freedom or democracy or equality or the rule of anything more than racial injustice and piracy and JEW LAW!

    Isn`t that right Pope Benedict and Lord Leveson?

  68. YoLithos says:

    @Jayme – Thanks, for all the explaining. Over to you, then.
    @Curious – Central Banking. Market control. Price control. Manipulation. Squeezing. Easing. Burning.
    @Palantír – The real cost is the cost-to-mine. And, maybe, to maintain and protect, corroborate, verify, assay – all that stuff. That goes up as the paper goes down. And the coin is used to actually buy and transact in real world goods. Financial cost is lala.
    Q : How does destroying a fraction affect the remainder, digitally? How does it affect their integrity as regards security, and other relevant aspects in general? I didn’t notice if fractions have individual keys. Or what happens to those (should they exist) when “re-integrated” (if possible). Can violating one fraction compromise the others? Can derivative-like scams be done “packaging” fractions from different original bitcoins? I guess I didn’t pay that much attention to the fractions part nitty-gritty pettywork. Back to the mines, then.

  69. Jim Evans says:

    Can I be the only Gentile on the Internet?

  70. pent says:

    MC5’s Wayne Kramer and Fugazi/Dischord’s Ian Mackaye speak on having principle in music business – and musicians that get annoyed with their silly royalty checques.

    The talk – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slVfBAmscgA

    And some music
    Kick Out The Jams

  71. Jim Evans says:

    Of course the age old Jewish trick is to play both ends against the middle.

    Whichever Media outlet or Political Party or nation or even religion (or none) you inhabit there`s nothing more certain than its run by the Jews in various disguises.

    But since 1948 the thousands of years of scullduggery have been exposedfor what they really are.

    Because you can always get a Jew somewhere to actively criticise more or less every form of politics and economics and philosophy and religion and philosophy.

    But they ALL seem to go shtumm about ANY significant criticism of Jewry or Israel or crooks like Rothschild or Soros or the precious Judaism they created to keep anyone from criticising what we ALL know amounts to a GLOBAL MAFIA!

    A Mafia that equals the RC Church and Islam and the CIA in it`s propensity for stifling freedom and democracy and behaving like usurers/pirates behind the cover of their evil lying treacherous GLOBALIST /Rothschild/Soros /Popist/Zionist/Islamist MEDIA!

    How is Israel so wealthy and why is Gideon Osborne`s Britain not so?

    Why can`t Britain leave the EU or control immigration like Israel? It`s a mystery!

    Though a serious look at the finances of the Vatican and the Blair Family and those of Bill and Hilary Clinton might offer some clues! LOL!

  72. Jim Evans says:

    And before the trillions of secret and open Zionist start up all their wailing about racism and xenophobia and secularism and right wing political fascism etc…….the games up chums!

    A fewmore years of open borders and migration and Rothschild and Soros and Bibi and Gideon and their CIA Gestapo and the BBC/RT/Fox MEDIA and capitalist anarchy and totalitarian fraud would have eUARANTEED World War 3 and GLOBAL Fourth Reich that Hitler could have only dreamed of in his wettest of dreams!

    Enough already!

    If the Marx Brothers had been meant to rule the World they would have had their own chapter in the Holy Bible!!!

  73. Jim Evans says:

    Can we make Aaron Swartz the last martyr and victim of Israel`s CIA/NATO fascist racist criminal and utterly corrupt GLOBAL empire PLEASE Lord Rothschild?

  74. darren says:

    Max, Stacey please tell me in plain English how i buy Bitcoin safely and securely. i have been looking into it and there are loads of places where i can apperently get them but i really don’t know which places are safe and secure and where i won’t get ripped off as i also read that someone had managed to thieve Bitcoin! why have they made it so confusing? God Damn it why couldn’t they just make it very safe and very bloody simple!
    Please help and point me to where i can get them safely

    Many Mant thanks

  75. Brad says:


    You sound surprised that wages in America have dropped like a stone. I thought I had laid out that equation for you and Max.
    Let me try again.
    Allow Mexicans to flood the labor pool and you will destroy the lives of the poorest Americans. Thanks for championing the destruction of lives…. you Rock!

  76. jim says:

    were does a person purchase bitcoin safely,
    Max? Stacy? Community?

  77. Ron says:

    Anything that lets us do business without feeding the beast is fine by me!

  78. Michel78 says:

    Pump and dump. This game is getting old.

    We need to pass this mouth-knee, sorry I mean money, mentality.

  79. Oz's says:

    M&S you look cold, suffering for the cause 🙂

    There are lots of trolls, trolling here, the thing is, We see you, & whenever you wish to dare meet us, face to face, We are ok to do so.

    When the NSA, CIA let you go & you come whining from shelter, food from us, I have many “DHS type” hollow points waiting for you

  80. rodento the studento says:

    He’s big, he bad, he’s back, he wants to put a big fucking gas rig in your rose garden.

    Lord Browne Promises to Invest ‘whatever it takes’ in UK Fracking
    (translation – bribe whoever it takes, blackmail whoever it takes, destroy whoever it takes.)

    Lord Browne –
    “the British arranged for a $30 million sweetener to be delivered to the Azeri State Oil Company (SOCAR). The cheque arrived with Thatcher, Heseltine and the hot tub; it was then passed to Lord Browne, who handed it to BP ‘Bagman’ Leslie Abrahams, with instructions to deliver it to President Elchibey directly and in private. Abrahams was the head of BP’s ‘XFI’ unit, whose job was to provide bribes in the form of cash and prostitutes to help grease oil deals. Such lubrication of large oil deals appears to be the norm.”

    “Evidence now implicates top BP executives as well as its partners Chevron and Exxon and the Bush Administration in the deadly cover-up –– which included falsifying a report to the Securities Exchange Commission.

    Yesterday, Ecowatch.org revealed that, in September 2008, nearly two years before the Deepwater Horizon explosion in the Gulf of Mexico, another BP rig had blown out in the Caspian Sea––which BP concealed from U.S. regulators and Congress.”

    Also author of The Browne Review: Securing a Sustainable Future for Higher Education
    Great use of greenwash language applied to a policy which tripled tuition fees and makes all students cash cows until they are in their 50’s.

    Students show they love Lord Browne –
    We love you Lord Browne! Thanks!


  81. Carlos Ferreira says:

    To all

    Bitcoin is a Deflationary currency!
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    If bitcoin increases in value, everyone that saves bitcoins, sees their savings increase in value!

    Dispite having to surrender some information to MTGox, that only happens in order to have the money transferred to its bank account! When buying the bitcoins, one can order MTGox to transfer the bitcoins to a private address and they will be yours! Just save the wallet file into several pen drives and hide them in a safe place and the feds will never be able to get your bitcoins!

    For those that cannot or are not willing to understand what bitcoins really are, I pity you all fools!
    For those that are too pussies to buy bitcoins… well… buy a dog instead and live in fear!

  82. Lord Browne says:

    Of course any old distraction from us hearing where 1929 and 2008 were perpetrated and which gang of charmless usual suspects did it is OK by the NYC/Chicago/Tel Aviv shysters likethe people ifilling these threads with their money worries.

    As I recall “student loans” (and much else besides) were yet another Marx Brothers import from the USA and enthusiastically imposed by the Thatcher-Bliar Gang of Neo-Nazi Usurers with their roots in International Rothschild Global High Finance Crookery and the “investments” of millions of Chinese people.

    The Jew Keith Joseph introduced Thatcher to her masters among the American economists and we had our own patriotic Friends of Israel trailblaisers in folk like SirNicolas Soames Lady Porter Lord Levy Sir Peter Slater-Walker Sir Isaac Wolfson and Sir Robert Maxwell. Perhaps Rothschild would be more at home in Israel?

    It amazes me that if Bhopal and Fukushima are the result of US incompetence you seekers after social justice aren`t all pushing for Washington to recompense other countries for YOUR mistakes….I don`t think! LOL!

  83. Adolf Hitler says:

    Max and Stacy are like RT and the BBC.

    They TALK the TALK but Rothschild and Soros and the Vatican and Global Organised Crime generally and their CIA Gestapo get an unsurprisingly easy ride ,just as their kind have done for centuries.

    Of course their kind take good care to control the Media and through the media they have total control of politics and social values .

    They are all of them disgusting parasites who have no shred of interest in the problems of ordinary honest hard working people at all.

    Fortunately for you they are so contemptible vain stupid and avaricious that even the people they call cattle or sheep eventually do the only thing left to them in the face of evil like that.

    Of course negotiating with the One Per Cent, like Rothschild and the Pope and the CIA and Organised Crime would achieve a more just, lasting and less bloody solution to the same problem without killing millions of innocent people.But Rothschild doesn`t “do” things that way!

  84. Adolf Hitler says:

    If 9/11 had struck at Rothschild Wall Street London or Tel Aviv I might have thought it was Bin Laden,but Bin Laden was CIA,so it`s not surprising that Rothschild managed to strike a WTC full of innocent underlinings without costing him a penny off his and Soros` profit margins!

    Has anyone noticed how Mossad never touch Soros and Rothschild? Perhaps their roots in Irgun havedried up under the relentless flood of CIA American taxpayers money!

    They all have to go I am afraid. They just will not adopt civilised honest standards.

  85. Adolf Hitler says:

    PerhapsRT and the BBC couldmake a joint documentary based on the Wikipedia entry about “Irgun”.

    With any luck both types of Semite in Palestine might understand each other`s position more fully?

    Of course US/British policy was never about creating peace but about creating animosity and conflict to get oil at a lower price.

    Did you know Iraq was created by the British in 1922 and that the whole Middle East has been effectively run by the Americans since 1945 using the CIA successors to my lovely Gestapo and many of their “interrogation techniques”?

    Of course you don`t! LOL!

  86. Fred says:

    max is really on his bitcoin steez this episode! governments can’t fonsicate bitcoin? i hope not, at least in theory it should be immune. but getting lots accounts/coins under US government jurisdiction would be a good start for them, no? coin for thought.

  87. Adolf Hitler says:

    Do you noticehow all the dictators who used to secretly torture the CIA`s victims (Like Asad and Gadaffi) all seem to die before they can dish the dirt on rothschild`s puppets in Europe and America?

    Of course if your pitiful apologies for a Media had a bit of integrity they would be phone tapping the One Per Cent. Sadly they are all “Zionists” and have to help Leveson and Global Organised Crime to keep the lid on the real truth using the excuse that they are “worried” about Jimmy Savile/Murdoch/Desmond pornography! LOL!

    Like THEY cared!!

  88. Adolf Hitler says:

    Check on Lord Leveson`s record as an advocate and you might wonder if he could successfullytie his own shoe laces or prosecute me for war crimes ! LOL!

    He`s the person they should get to inspect the BBC crime scene of massive fraud and utter incompetence. But no politician dare allow the BBC to get their investigative act together.

    MIC, Wall Street,CIA and Washington would run scared if the Pope and Netanyahu lost control of the Beeb! LOL!

  89. Dr Fox says:

    Perhaps my friendand I could revive British fortunes by selling more American arms while importing the remaining half of the Third World`s population into Adlof Soros`s United States of Europe Fourth Reich. That should work, if it gets Lord Sugar`s and Kirsty Warke`s approval.

    Is anyone prepared to employ a Roma rocket scientist to sell the Big Issue in our empty High Street just to get the BNP into a final rage before the RaceWar begins?

    We have to find someone to blame for the collapse of Rothschild capitalism and the rise of unjustified right wing extremism otherwise Westminster and the BBC may get unreasonably blamed themselves.WHY?

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