“We Irish are lab rats in an island laboratory”

Over the course of my life I have become convinced that we Irish are lab rats in an island laboratory undergoing experimentation.  As a people we have been serially used and abused by oppressors ranging from monarchs,  church,  state and banksters.  After the 1840s famine experiment the Irish ‘bailout’ model of the time,  including parish structures etc., (related to religion of choice),  was tested first in Ireland and subsequently rolled out over the rest of the British Empire.
In the 1950’s Archbishop Mc Quaid with Fianna Fail collaborators, who at his wish refused to protect women and children (Noel Browne’s Mother and Child Bill),  simultaneously presided over numerous orphanages and  industrial schools which in reality were state funded concentration camps for poor children specialising in torture through rape and abuse.
What’s less well known is that the same asshole gave ethical approval to fluoridation of drinking water through the “Guild of Saints Luke,  Cosmas and Damian” . This led to the Health (Fluoridation of Water Supplies) Act 1960, which mandated compulsory fluoridation by local authorities.  Another experiment in saving on state dental bills.
Health concerns associated with adding fluoride to water has seen it’s use discontinued in many European and other countries. The Irish Medical Board now claims that fluoride in the water here is not a medicine but a cosmetic.

In the mid 1980’s Broadcom,  in a somewhat positive experiment,  was  developing European telecommunications infrastructure and put in place phone lines/exchanges that could cope with Internet data in Dublin,  Athens and Lisbon.  Internet was not rolled out for general use until the 90s as it’s social impact was unknown and feared.
Interestingly /coincidentally,  from the onset of the Financial War in 2008,  Athens, Dublin and Lisbon have again been the laboratory.  My octogenarian mother describes the true reason behind the experimental system of reckless lending during the housing and credit bubble like this:

Make people desperate for a home or whatever, give them loans they can never repay so they will pay interest in perpetuity. Thus they become debt slaves and then as the debt is sold on, this becomes the modern equivalent of the old buying and selling of slaves on the slave auction block.

A step on from this is the concept of asset stripping and buying and selling whole slave nations.

I don’t know whether Main Stream Media in Ireland are part of the overall experiment but it continues to fail the public and constantly preaches it’s litany of ‘we must keep our good name and repay the fraudulent bankster gambling debts because we are a good moral people who pay our way’.
We are told we must kiss the ring of the new Financial archbishops and ‘morally’ pay tithes to these self styled immoral bankster overlords.

The banksters and their parliamentary minions are no doubt currently writing the finance act to be announced at next week’s budget, while in the  media  Punch (Phil Hogan, Minister for Environment, Local Govt. and Housing) and Judy (Joan Burton,  Minister for Social Protection) fight it out over which of their coalition  parties will take the bad opinion poll hit after the next round of austerity measures, which will include bankster archbishop led ‘reforms’ aimed at making the citizenry more divided, suicidal, ill and hopeless than ever before.
The big pieces this year are the introduction of a controversial property tax which last year 50% of the population did not pay, and the moving of all responsibility for Social Housing (including 93,000 people who are currently temporarily housed) from the Dept of Social Protection to the Dept of the Environment which is hemorrhaging funding from all quarters due to domestic economic failure. The other big ‘reforms’ include kicking people people who having diligently paid their enormous universal social charge,  off  unemployment benefit after 9 months  and putting them onto a means tested allowance in a country that is ‘means test central’ of the EU. All in an environment of economic contraction and epidemic unemployment. Child and pension allowances are set to be cut with the new property tax to be taken directly from benefits. Bankster welfare and pensions are of course to remain untouched.
Meanwhile corporate and high paid earner tax loopholes are staying in place. Recently I came across a personal story of a highly paid Doctor who was so appalled by the fact that under the current regime their wealth was increasing, while their patients were presenting with all manner of austerity related ailments, that they paid an enormous chunk of their own earnings to a social charity in a self imposed tax measure.

Compared with the Icelandic approach you can see clearly that governments have a choice whether they protect the financial elites or the ordinary citizens of their country.

In an interview with Der Spiegel the Icelandic Minister for Finance Steingrimur Sigfusson explains how to quickly overcome a financial crisis and get back to growth.

‘We are not going to preach to Europe that we have found the cure all. But it was important that we didn’t wait, but that instead we reacted immediately to symptoms of the crisis. In order to remedy the deficit, an increase in taxes to raise revenue was unavoidable, but savings measures were also necessary. We needed a mix of both and the strong conviction in preserving our welfare system.

SPIEGEL: What can you recommend to countries in crisis like Greece?

Sigfusson: First security for society. Then the lower and middle income classes must be protected from austerity measures. Their purchasing power must be maintained so that their consumption can contribute to the revitalization of the economy. Internationally that is often overlooked.’

h/t  Mick O’Kelly , the recovering corporatist and the one eyed, three legged news hound



Flouride as cosmetic

Flouridation by country

Mother and child scheme

Paying the bond holders is a con job

IFSC too much power in shaping finance act

Means test central

cabinet at odds over plan to take property tax straight from dole

Der Spiegel Icelandic recovery  interview

The girl against fluoride

An gorta mór

Ireland’s Genocide The Famine Plot: England’s Role In Ireland’s Greatest Tragedy

Wiki Great Irish Famine

22 comments on ““We Irish are lab rats in an island laboratory”
  1. ronron says:

    hi Elleen. well done. do you know jbyeats? if so, is is doing ok?

  2. snoop diddy says:

    Lab rats would mean there was an endpoint with a result and an interesting reason for the test one way or the other…
    Sorry, just the Irish continuing to be gimps in a rape dungeon.

  3. eileen dublin says:

    Go raibh maith agat! are you referring to a certain pastiche or the man himself?

  4. eileen dublin says:

    ´@ snoop. Another thing my octagenerian mother said . Things come to Ireland to die – especially these experiments.

  5. The Dork of Cork. says:

    We could be just a bit thicker then your average nation.
    I always found the Scots more self aware for some reason ,and tighter with their money claims on the nothingness of course.
    Not good with laying tram tracks though………
    Their engineering days are behind them it seems.

    Anyway – I am sure Anglo and their political agents followed this programme to the letter –


    Organisations farm us because we are dumb.

  6. jischinger says:

    I know I could do more, but why are so many doing nothing?

    What good is all this communication? I don’t get it, they are out numbered, and it’s not like we are living in huts with no viable means of communication other than the traveling mistrals roaming the countryside with the latest news – there’s really no excuse!

  7. Pog mo hó says:

    I’ve been to Ireland before, during and after the Tiger. During
    one trip over some feckin eejit wanted to thank me and “my”
    president Clinton for everything to help Ireland. I thanked him
    and said to take advantage of it all while you can because Clinton
    is a bag of garbage and beware of Greeks bearing gifts.
    Tax the church. Tax ‘Em Big Time.
    James Joyce was correct: The sow that eats its own farrow.

  8. kdt says:

    @jischinger What good is all this communication?

    fate favours the prepared mind

    @Eileen Dublin …………..darwin put the irish at the top of the eugenisists list for culling by the anglicans.
    ‘origin of spices” layed the ground work for “the desent of man , And Selection in Relation to Sex” i cant belive that after all this time NOTHING is said about his OTHER books all ANY one talks about is the one wich was not even the best treatment of the subjet at the time the ONLY possable reason for every one being taught “darwinisim” with no real requirement to READ darwin beond the one book IF that , is that it is INTENTIONAL ! he was in fact a nearly unreadable writer insted his “voiage of disovery” was romantisized and used to promote him above other theriests who had done better work on the same data…………… the elites wanted HIS name on THERE program they then simply left the part about the ‘great culling’ he called for out of the public shcool curriculum / indoctrination.

  9. kdt says:

    @jischinger re: the vid post …………….. did i cach that right? he randomly met an old crippled woman who prophesied to him about war? …………… if i reall corectly”the morrigan” (the dieity whose job that is) has three main forms: a ravin , a young woman washing bloody armor at a ford , and an old woman who usuly walks with just ONE cane.

    im not overly superstitious BUT that made the hair on the back of my neck stand up there is just somthing extra creepy about the banshee.

  10. Trevor Morgan says:

    @The Dork of Cork
    Who is/are Anglo???
    Does this include enclosure and robbery of land from that now extince class the English peasantry? Does it include children in work houses in London being literally sold to Cotton masters of the North.
    Does it include poor people in England today.
    Or are you just reaching for the old racist card?

    Good article overall – top marks, liked it.

  11. john austin byrne says:

    I find it depressing that I cant find anything in this article to disagree with. There must be something in the water! How could so many people not only accept such treatment, but believe its good for them!!!

    ‘Its our moral obligation to allow the entire nation and generations that follow to be stolen from.’

    They say this – maybe Im paraphrasing – with a straight face, absolutely believing it, while thinking they are super intelligent economists!!



  12. phuck, it's the phantom says:

    You could also stop being morons. Not that that’s an Irish thing. Everywhere had a housing boom. Why didn’t the people say something when it started occurring? Oh that’s right, because you’re all morons, and a lot of you thought you were king shit because you bought before it making you just as bad as the bankers.

  13. milesfr0mh0me says:

    @ trevor morgan – the dork from cork was referring to Anglo Irish Bank. before it collapsed (and all the other junk) it was just known as Anglo to differentiate from another bank called AIB. it’s not anything racist.

  14. PHÛ QŪE says:

    Big talk, no action. KMRIA
    Why am I having flashbacks of reading the Aeolus scene from
    Ulysses? Now come on Paddy and have a pint and let’s all talk
    about the Rare Old Times.
    Wasn’t it in Holy Ireland that the term “Boycott” came from?
    “I say, Chancy, there are croppies fording the river. What do
    you say we fetch our fowling pieces, tarry about the bridge
    and have a bit of sport. What?
    Maybe it’s just Stokholm syndrome. It’s a fooking island and
    you get just a small rectangle off the coast for fishing rights?
    …and the natural gas will burn your ass and blow you all to hell…
    All those Jews got gassed in the camps because they were
    waiting for somebody to save them. I can just see the Hassidic
    Rabbi’s in the Warsaw ghetto telling everybody “Come on it’s
    OK, we’re going to be alright.
    You all need to go out to one of the many Famine Villages and
    take a good long look. Go to a Famine Graveyard and see how
    the earth has settled in spots over the decades. You can almost
    hear the spirits telling you to prepare for another round of
    “Gentlemen’s Genocide.”

  15. Trevor Morgan says:

    Thanks for clarifying and apologies. I am just over sensitive to some stuff I guess.

    Yes, that bank (or do I mean criminal gang?) put the Irish people in it and their politicians seem to have done more harm than the Ascendency ever dreamed possible.

  16. Peter Jennings says:

    The Irish gov’t will do what all EU gov’t’s will do. They will leave it too long to help the people, knowingly backing the wrong horse on a bad tip and then see their system, especially banks, come crashing down to the ground. Those who didn’t disappear in time will then squeal like the pigs they always were and deny all knowledge of their criminal & immoral behaviour.

    Don’t look to your churches to help you either. They are colluding, like they always did, for the best possible outcome for themselves.

  17. I_Cant_Believe_Its_Just_a_Dip says:

    Funnily enough Eileen, I always considered the UK mainland as a giant lab experiment-perhaps you could consider yourselves as an experiment inside an experiment. Of course flouride was first used by the nazis to control the jews in the concentration camps, did you know that with a decent water filter your boiled green vegetables don’t turn that sickly horrible bleached yellow colour when cooked.( And Im willing to bet your mother can clearly see the rise of fascism as shes seen it before, just like she did in the 30’s.)
    @jischinger, teach psychology and self-sufficiency is better like Chris Duane does- perhaps huts would be an improvement as there’d be no BBC or ann coulter ‘teachings’ brainwashing and confusing the flouridated brains-‘herd mentality’ springs to mind.
    I’ll get my coat.

  18. leperchaun says:

    Ireland has a great history of protest music. Where is that music today? There certainly are a great number of subjects for song and instrument. Has the Globalization and Corporatization of music become so powerful that there is no protest/resistance music? That music might not change the situation but it would be a comfort and common cultural point for the resisters.


    Banksters, Wanksters destroy our heartland
    Banksters, Wanksters destroy our homes
    Our leaders assist them
    To pocket some gold.

  19. Trevor Morgan says:

    Irish Music!
    I would like to protest about Daniel O’Donnell
    The good protest music has emigrated.

  20. eileen dublin says:

    @ I can believe its just a dip. Yes she has said just that. Yep re experiment within experiment!

    @ all YAY! Ye all got it. Love and Light.

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