[KR278] Keiser Report: Corpse of Economy & Interview with Alec Empire

We discuss Dr Bernanke’s hologram and his real tsunami of money. In the second half of the show Max talks to Alec Empire of Atari Teenage Riot about copyright, Anonymous and free speech and the armed government goons sent to shakedown grannies.

70 comments on “[KR278] Keiser Report: Corpse of Economy & Interview with Alec Empire
  1. Flopot says:

    10/10.

    Max and Stacy looking very relaxed and enjoying taking the p*ss out of the fake financial system.

    Guest segment keeping us informed about the ongoing internet censorship war.

    MSM has absolutely nothing on this programme.

  2. Youri Carma says:

    Chossudovsky: IMF solutions cannot solve EU crisis http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWgjZgNpu2U

    IMF gets $430 billion in new firepower

  3. Youri Carma says:

    Gillian Tett – Fool’s Gold http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3YIcksBRhI

    Tett extremely qualified – Buiter extremely unqualified.

  4. Youri Carma says:

    Fukushima 4/20/12 Animal update http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouLG7x21Ic4
    Also, there was a video posted, also by me, where women from Chernobyl were talking about animal behavior and how animals were attacking cars/trucks, etc. since removed…
    anyway, I have a HUGE headache tonight, so enjoy the non edited version of WTFish.
    Seriously, what are You All doing to prepare?
    Blap, there… I’ve said it…

  5. gold bullet says:

    Great Report!

    Zombies are everywhere these days, it seems, whether you talk about the copyright cartel or the banksters. It’s high time we send them back where they belong.

    Great guest. I’m certainly not the biggest fan of ATR’s music (I like it and I think it’s good, but it’s not great, IMHO), but Alec comes across as one of the smartest persons in music today. Great to see him on KR.

    It’s critical that people are informed about the Internet Wars and the attempts of various govs and their corporate masters to censor the internet and to kill free speech. I believe Max and Stacy have a significant role in that, so thank you, M&S, for helping activists, Pirates, Anons and other digital warriors in our fight for the free and open internet.

  6. F. Beard says:

    Steve Keen points out that it is private debt (so-called “credit”) that is the problem not public debt (“fiat”).

  7. gold bullet says:

    ”Too Much Copyright: This Generation’s Prohibition”

    http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120419/14462618567/too-much-copyright-this-generations-prohibition.shtml

    This is the right description of the current copyright insanity. Too much copyright is truly this generation’s prohibition. And the best way to get rid of prohibition is to get rid of its main cause. Though in this case I don’t mean get rid of copyright completely (though copyright laws MUST be drastically reformed and adapted to the digital, P2P era), but we have to get rid of the copyright maximists like the RIAA, MPAA, MAFIAA, etc. who are trying to push repressive laws that would kill free speech and privacy on the internet.

    #KillHollywood! Destroy the insane copyright cartel!

  8. Flopot says:

    Lol, I never realised this…

    “ACTA first came to public attention in May 2008 after a discussion paper was uploaded to Wikileaks”

    This means the governments and censorship cartel were sitting on ACTA for at least 2 years (the video in the following link contains a useful chronology):

    http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/4725/125/

    I will just throw in a few more links during my very brief google trawl to find links between the origins of ACTA, SOPA and the ISP spying scheme…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5U2UGY06rU
    http://takeitpersonally.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/so-much-for-protesting-acta-pipa-and.html

    The same old culprits like the RIAA keep on cropping up but it is blatantly obvious that governments are chomping at the bit to use such legislation/treaties to censor the internet. Just wish I had a link to a smoking gun…

    During my ultra brief trawl I could not find anything on the history of SOPA, i.e. who or what first thought up SOPA etc…

  9. gold bullet says:

    @Flopot

    From what I know, it was the RIAA and MPAA who wrote SOPA/PIPA and then lobbied for those bills in Congress. Unfortunately, at the moment I can’t remember where I read that info. It’s possible that I read it on Techdirt, try their site and search SOPA, they have a ton of articles on it.

  10. jarrollin says:

    Let me precede my semantic squabble by saying I love this show. However, a “metaphor” does not compare one literal thing to another literal thing (a hologram to the economy.) A metaphor uses a literal thing to express something NOT literal. That’s why we see the meta- prefix there. Think metaphysical, a branch of philosophy that derives original truths from the unknown. A metaphor uses a literal to express the unknown.
    So, comparing a hologram to the economy is still just an ANALOGY. With that said, this was a very elaborate analogy, the most elaborate one I’ve ever heard on the Keiser Report.

  11. Stefan says:

    It amazes me how you guys can consistently put out great shows, 3 shows a week and I was thinking the shows might get bland, well your shows just get better.

  12. bleep says:

    @jarrollin awesome! This place is freaking educational…

  13. Happy Dick says:

    Farage …. 4/18 … Euro talk … 2min
    Nigel Farage: Euro Break-Up Just a Question of How
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=llDYLb7HoIk

    Keiser, how might the Euro break up, and how will this effect the remaining global currencies?

  14. Joe9083 says:

    @SHerbet,You are The Queen of Metaphor and The Segue.

  15. Happy Dick says:

    American prisoners getting paid 93 cents to $4.73/day.
    ” The Corrections Corporation of America and G4S (formerly Wackenhut), two prison privatizers, sell inmate labor at subminimum wages to Fortune 500 corporations like Chevron, Bank of America, AT&T, and IBM.”

    http://www.alternet.org/rights/155061/getting_paid_93_cents_a_day_in_america_corporations_bring_back_the_19th_century/?page=entire

    ” nearly a million prisoners are now making office furniture, working in call centers, fabricating body armor, taking hotel reservations, working in slaughterhouses, or manufacturing textiles, shoes, and clothing”

  16. Happy Dick says:

    Revealed: Cameron Family Fortune made in Tax Havens
    http://zen-haven.dk/revealed-cameron-family-fortune-made-in-tax-havens/

  17. stacyherbert says:

    @Flopot – you’re so sweet! all the time with your 10/10 ratings!!

    @Stefan – thanks! well, we have fun, that’s the trick; it never ceases to amaze and amuse me reading the financial news

    @gold bullet – yes, I loved listening to Alec talk, he had smart answers and an interesting outlook

    @Joe9083 – why thank you, sir

    @jarrollin – it’s trolling for traffic to make a mistake because online EVERYONE is an expert who is much SMARTER than everyone else but we only know that because they take the time to write long dissertations about how much smarter they are than everyone else they encounter online; it’s a little traffic trolling trick; actually, I find mispronouncing words generates the most comments traffic

  18. Joe9083 says:

    It’s ether prescribed opiates from big pharma or legalese the weed and you can grow it in your back yard. Duh.

  19. Flopot says:

    @Gold Bullet

    I will check that out but shocking to think that a private organization can write a bill and hand it into Congress. Lol. But what it even more shocking is that I am shocked which I take as evidence that my neural pathways are still brainf**ked by the MSM. I should not be shocked.

    What I was really looking for was evidence that the censorship cartel and their lawmaker cohorts had planned all these simultaneous attacks on internet “freedom”. So, for example, I can see that the RIAA is behind SOPA and the ISP “spy agreement”. The RIAA was also included in the secret ACTA talks.

    But I have no firm dates for the conception of SOPA. ACTA’s genesis began back in 2004. So currently it all looks like a big coincidence. Which is bollocks.

  20. Flopot says:

    @Stacy

    No problem! The KR is that good imo. But you guys have it easy – the MSM is so full of s**t at the moment ;-)

  21. Flopot says:

    PS I think I read somewhere that analogy and metaphor are ultimately the same thing ;-)

  22. stacyherbert says:

    @Flopot – they are for practical purposes but using either word brings out the sorts that like to demonstrate how much smarter they are than everyone else; hey, if it makes your weekend a good one, why not! But that fed monetary policy is a hologram is a metaphor. To compare the Fed policy to the hologram and the other qualities of a hologram, for example, that it can disappear suddenly or the cat walking backwards makes it an analogy. You see, however, that more importantly, it generates traffic.

  23. Vonda Bra says:

    @ Happy Dick

    Thanks, I´ll check it a bit later! :-)

  24. I_Cant_Believe_Its_Just_a_Dip says:

    Q) What do F.beard and fiat currency have in common?
    A) They are both fundamentally based on large amounts of faith.

    ”Dear Friend of GATA and Gold:
    Market analyst and hedge fund manager James G. Rickards this week told Dan Ameduri of Future Money Trends that the U.S. government wants the gold price to rise gradually in an orderly way to devalue the dollar and works with other central banks through the Bank for International Settlements to rig the gold market.”
    http://harveyorgan.blogspot.co.uk/
    Check out them silver Comex inventory charts they are down down down!
    http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.co.uk/
    ”I keep hearing stories of negotiated prices above the public quotes to buy off large delivery claims. I would be interested to know if anyone has proof of this.”

  25. I_Cant_Believe_Its_Just_a_Dip says:

    Laura Poitras is repeatedly threatened with arrest for use of a pen(to take notes),
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/nsa-whistleblower-speaks-live-government-lying-you

  26. F. Beard says:

    @Stacy,

    Are youse guys still in NYC or are you back in Paris?

  27. Rorschach's journal says:

    Everyone seems to ignore that Tupac feuded with Dre

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HncSjuMXCFw

    Still waiting for you guys to start taking the control system apart. Ye olde bankers and jews thing starting to get old.

  28. F. Beard says:

    Ye olde bankers and jews thing starting to get old. Rorschach’s journal

    You seem to be the only one here conflating bankers and Jews. So attacking banking is antisemitism because SOME bankers are Jewish?

  29. Rorschach's journal says:

    You see beard you get one group to blame the bankers and another to blame the jews and you play them against eacholer like some kind of fucked up dialectic, and sure as dammit someones going to come out with shite like this

    “So attacking banking is antisemitism because SOME bankers are Jewish?”

    You just need enough urine in the water to fuck up the taste.

  30. Flopot says:

    @Stacy

    I think I read it somewhere but I never understood it :D And I still don’t fully understand the distinction, except maybe it is about detail? So once you start describing the similarities then you are entering analogy territory?

    Anyway, it is brilliant that Jarro’s pedantic intervention invoked Stacy’s intellectual edge that cuts people down to size. This is what makes the KR team so formidable. You guys must be brilliant on a live show so I better check out that recent link Max posted about a radio show interview…

    Sorry to be so effusive (disgusting I know) but I have been starved of KR for at least a week, maybe more.

  31. F. Beard says:

    @Rorschach’s journal,

    I like your name so I want to get along so please explain what you are saying?

    YOU’RE LOCKED IN HERE WITH ME!

  32. Flopot says:

    @F.Beard

    Lol!

  33. Eternal Fascism: Umberto Eco
    14 Ways to Uncover Fascist Ideology

    #2. Fascism implies the rejection of modernism.

    Fascists use technology to reject science as a negation of traditional spiritual values as they seek to regress to a former day or “golden age.” Even though they are proud of technological achievements, its praise of modernism was only the surface of an ideology based upon blood and earth.

  34. I_Cant_Believe_Its_Just_a_Dip says:

    @F beard, lol, hope you’re well (excuse the cheap joke please I’ll stop trying to be smart). Why didn’t you go see M+S or are you so far far away? …
    @flopot, Stacy should keep a copy of reply and can paste at leisure when required
    @youri, sorry to hear it, perhaps the headache is caused by too much time online (and the thinking associated with it), maybe you need some fresh air on a quick motorbike or a mountain to climb :-). Btw I agree people are so ill prepared-similar blap!

  35. Flopot says:

    @I_Cant_Believe_Its_Just_a_Dip

    There was a troll on a few weeks ago called “Jeff”, I think, and Alf had a go at him. “Jeff” claimed to be a pin-striped London City wanker…sorry I mean banker and it would have been brilliant to watch Stacy cut him to pieces.

    But I agree, we are all so ill prepared. Especially here in the UK. We are so brainf**ked.

  36. Mattdog says:

    @Youri, Latest Jeff Rense with Mike Collins, you can skip to 1/3 of the way through, nice “comfort” listening regarding Fukushima, if one can even joke on that.
    At least listening to these guys saying the word Carrageenan. Seaweed accounts for most of the source of this stuff for an incredible array of consumables;
    http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/special/rense_Collins_041612.mp3
    You do what you can, prepare a “bug out” bag, water filtration essentials, as much non-perishable (dry) foodstuffs, grains, rice, propane, solar panels, (batteries for), good company, communications set up. (I still need to work on the communications set up, would really like to have a ham radio set up.) Gotta go, few more things I’ve forgotten, I’m sure, it’s somewhere in the house!

  37. F. Beard says:

    Why didn’t you go see M+S or are you so far far away? … I_Can’t_Believe_He_Won’t_Take_That_Trip

    The Boxer

  38. bleep says:

    @happy dick
    That article on prison labor is excellent, thanks

  39. gold bullet says:

    @Flopot

    ”But I have no firm dates for the conception of SOPA. ACTA’s genesis began back in 2004. So currently it all looks like a big coincidence. Which is bollocks.”

    You know what, it would be interesting to see when did they start with SOPA, when it was conceived. I really, really doubt that it is a coincidence that all these bills and a ”trade agreement” (ACTA is officially a ”trade agreement”) are being put forward almost simultaneously. But one thing I do know is that the free and open internet are under a major threat by the neoliberals and the Hollywood MAFIAA and that we must destroy the insane copyright cartel!

  40. Happy Dick says:

    @bleep … we are All learning and sharing here … especially Youri, he never sleeps. ;)

  41. Happy Dick says:

    @bleep …. Youri must be hashed up now, he stopped posting.

  42. aaah says:

    Hollywood has been co-opting rock & roll by
    using a number of great 60′s songs as soundtracks
    for the Vietnam War. This is like using Sex Pistols
    and Clash songs as a soundtrack for The Iron Lady.
    It really irks me that a lot of young people’s introduction
    to songs like Satisfaction and Gimme Shelter are in Vietnam
    movies. This is a way to over-romanticize the slaughter of
    innocents and the huge genocidal atrocity that Vietnam was.
    It’s happening on YouTube -search Gimme Shelter on YouTube
    and you get dozens of sites that show scenes from the Vietnam War
    as the song plays. An abomination.
    What’s next -playing ‘Love the One Your With’ by CSNY while
    showing pix of Auschwitz. How about ‘Papa’s Got a Brand New Bag’
    while they show body bags of returning dead soldiers from Afghanistan.

  43. aaah says:

    When they load people onto railroad freight cars
    bound for FEMA camps they’ll play -”Ticket to Ride’
    on loudspeakers. Inside the blacked out cattle car
    the song ‘Paint It Black’ will be playing.
    As the train leaves -’The Loco Motion’ plays
    followed by ‘Locomotive Breath’ by Jethro Tull.
    When they waterboard you they’ll play ‘Surfin USA”.
    When they hang you by your shackled wrists in a dungeon
    medieval style they’ll play, ‘Keep Me Hangin On’.
    An overhead TV comes on and Bernanke talks about
    Operation Twist to the soundtrack ‘Twist & Shout’.

  44. I_Cant_Believe_Its_Just_a_Dip says:

    @F. Beard, nice song and witty reply-you’re on form dude!
    ”When men stop believing in God, it isn’t that they then believe in nothing: they believe in everything” –Umberto Eco
    @aaah, and best of all- it’ll all be legal by then-fear the madness of crowds.
    @Roger Holden, William Burroughs believed that an evil cloud covered the whole of North America, btw didn’t his grandfather invent the adding machine.
    @General Rasta of the SLA, have not read Umberto Eco for a long long time, do you know these;
    ”Fear prophets and those prepared to die for the truth, for as a rule they make many others die with them, often before them, at times instead of them.”
    ”In the United States there’s a Puritan ethic and a mythology of success. He who is successful is good. In Latin countries, in Catholic countries, a successful person is a sinner.”
    And for someone we all know;)
    ”The real hero is always a hero by mistake; he dreams of being an honest coward like everybody else.”

  45. John James says:

    So Tupac’s making a comeback. Damn… death is sooo yesterday!

  46. Jayme says:

    Atari Teenage Riot – “Black Flags” feat. Boots Riley/ Anonymous (Edit2!)
    http://www.anatta.tv/video/Qt97R7rISus/Atari-Teenage-Riot-Black-Flags-feat-Boots-Riley-Anonymous-Edit2.html

  47. I_Cant_Believe_Its_Just_a_Dip says:

    @John James, perhaps M+S can interview a reanimated dead person-get the afterlife’s take on things for added perspective; I was going to say that would be a world first but then I remembered Fox news has done it already:)

  48. Vonda Bra says:

    American Patriots: Where are they?
    “…Well we’re not even serfs are we? Americans no longer have the rights of 19th Century slaves. And we accept it. And what’s really so funny is that all these “patriot” flag-waving guys who think they’re so macho tough, they’re just sheep they accept all of this. What’s the difference from what you just said and by 2015 apparently they are going to have BLACK BOXES in all our cars…we’ve been going on with this for so long haven’t we? And it just keeps getting worse.”
    —Dr. Paul Craig Roberts

    Dr. Paul Craig Roberts: U.S. Police State Masquerades as A Democracy
    http://youtu.be/NuxJEZXO09g

    PS: is all that laughing by PCR … beginning to get a bit irritating? .. ;-)

  49. ronron says:

    hahaha. :-) just spit beer on my keyboard. gonna get Stacy a brand new shirt. lol

  50. stacyherbert says:

    @ronron – ha ha, glad y’all find that funny!

  51. Jayme says:

    There’s a nice set of in-depth reports on DemocracyNow from yesterday on information control. All the new government powers coming to fruition.

    “We Don’t Live in a Free Country”: Jacob Appelbaum on Being Target of Widespread Gov’t Surveillance
    http://www.democracynow.org/2012/4/20/we_do_not_live_in_a

  52. Jayme says:

    Jill Scott-Watching Me(w/ lyrics)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5OegUCe704

  53. Jayme says:

    You and Max look sharp Stacy.

  54. ronron says:

    @Stacy. i really do like your new shirt, no shit. :-)

  55. ronron says:

    @Stacy. do you like being in this time zone, or is it weird?

  56. ronron says:

    you guys should have drove up for the Montreal riot. teargas and everything. good times.

  57. ronron says:

    you still got time to drive up here, Stacy? the scenery is breathtaking.

  58. ronron says:

    i could take your picture at niagara falls canada. :-)

  59. ronron says:

    sorry Tracy. i got overly excited. ;-)

  60. ronron says:

    you did promise to come to canada the next time you were over here. just saying.

  61. “eMule” is a commercial P2P portable file sharing dongle. D.A.D (Digital to Analogue to Digital) soft & hardware, can eliminate “Torrent Poisoning” as deployed by a few copywrite protection outfits, who intentionally set up dodgy bit-torrent P2P websites to trap the uninitiated into downloading malware. http://www.pendriveapps.com/emule-portable-p2p-filesharing/

    This war on copywrite P2P file sharing, is stimulating a large cottage industry. Kids know that the internet is one big spynet. So the logical countermeasure is to go portable. an 8 Gig dongle costs mere cents if you buy second hand. and terrabyte portable hard-drives can hold a lot of movies/whatever…..Never underestimate the ingenuity of kids motivated by oppressive Big Brother harasment.

    A new “OFF THE GRID” “Skinternet” is developing fast! (kids are skint! and can’t afford corporate inflated copywrite content)

  62. stacyherbert says:

    @ronron – not used to it yet

  63. ricin3000 says:

    I always loved ATR. Goes wayyy back to 1995-1997. Too bad that the digital hardcore style whilst incorporated into many later sounds never got to be a true big genre. It was too early I reckon.

    If you don’t have any idea of what this sort of music sounds like here’s an example:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqsVKC7W-HQ&feature=related

    This was still with female vocals from Henin Elias.

  64. ricin3000 says:

    With an ache in my stomach but still I need to say this vis a vis Anonymous. I firmly believe it’s a psy ops and the “black flag” talking just makes that feeling stronger. Black (Western) “anarchist” flag == Black (“Muslim”) AlCIAda flag?

    Alec seems less awake (or more “comfortable”) than he was in the past when he was one of the ppl that were awakening me. Not one really big word there. The word jaded comes to mind.

    Oh well, interesting anyway

    Take care,

    R3K

  65. Al Kyder says:

    @ maxkeiser & stacyherbert

    Another perfect show. Noo Yawk Ciddy has been good to ya both,

    Busy here in the Sth Pacific. Dont worry, soon ya’ll be back in Paris :)

    Thanks to Alec one of the best guest spots so far. ★ ⚑ ⚑ ⚑ ⚑ ★

  66. Bruce says:

    iTunes artist royalties = pitiful; an extension of the slave system.
    Things like Spotify = an extension of the slave system.

    That’s a whole ‘nother topic, but I was reminded of that when Maxxx said the walled garden ecosystem shits is expensive, or words to that effect.

    Artists = stupid to be signed up to the cartel rather than do it 100% independently.

    Representations of real things are actually valuable and so are electrons dancing on the head of a pin. After all, isn’t M&S a representation of the real M&S. Plus I can turn the annoying bitches off when I want. Win.

    If my song were sampled for a commercial without permission, someone would have hell to pay. But I also feel the same with some artist sampling the work and selling it; especially an artist you think is poo and don’t want to be associated with at all.

    Good show. Good background. Good shirt Stacy.

    I must send some representations of a real comment now.
    Whiiiishhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

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