Toulouse terrorist surrounded: And he’s not a neo-Nazi, he’s an Islamic fundamentalist

Stacy Summary: As I said in the comments section below when someone suggested it is all the same whether Muslim or Neo-Nazi. I said no way, if this guy turned out to be an islamic fundamentalist rather than a Neo-Nazi it would be very, very bad for some innocent people abroad who will now have to be murdered in vengeance. If it were a neo-nazi, the murder would have ended with his capture.

When the police and Interior Ministry suspected it was a neo-Nazi, a kind of calm descended on France. People thought, “it’s just a madman, one of us.” Now that it appears the guy is 24 and is at least half Algerian who claims to be a member of Al Qaeda, the silence has been broken and the shrieks are wild. No, this is no longer one deranged individual as the population had thought for 48 hours it is AN ENTIRE POPULATION THAT ARE EVIL! Let’s see how different this turns out to be from the response to Breivik which started out shrieking when the world assumed the killer was Muslim, and quickly died down when it was ‘just a white guy – a lone madman.’ This is the opposite, and Sarkozy had already been out on the campaign trail a week previous promising to ban halal meat due to the fact that Marine Le Pen had been telling people that all meat sold in France was actually halal because of all the North Africans in France.

Here is Marine Le Pen moments ago: “The fundamentalist risk had been underestimated in our country. Political-religious groups develop under a certain laxism. We now need to lead this war against fundamentalist political-religious groups who kill Christian children, our Christian children, our young Muslim men and Jewish children two days ago.”

Mark my words – Syria and Iran will pay for this.

As will the taxpayers of France who will now, though broke, finance more military actions abroad, thus justifying in the minds of other lone madmen more violence and so the cycle continues as it has for over a thousand years of profitable crusades.

UPDATE:  Police say the terrorist and his brother both follow ‘Salafist ideology’ . . . the French, British and American governments aided the Salafists in Libya and are now aiding the Salafists in Syria so doesn’t that mean that France also follows the Salafist ideology, too? And does this mean that the dictator Assad is right that the salafists are terrorists?

98 comments on “Toulouse terrorist surrounded: And he’s not a neo-Nazi, he’s an Islamic fundamentalist
  1. Chundernuts says:

    Live coverage of the siege at the home of the suspected Toulouse serial killer

    Much mouth froth is being prepared for this one.

  2. stacyherbert says:

    @Chundernuts – well he’s admitted to it; mind you a lot of crazies come forward in the US and admit to being a serial killer when they’re not

  3. Chundernuts says:

    And plenty claim not to be when they are. :)

  4. gold bullet says:

    ”10.05 Breaking news from AFP. Police now say they have detained the alleged gunman’s mother, brother and his brother’s girlfriend. Henry Samuel reports that a second brother and two sisters of the gunman have also been arrested.”

    Erm, why?! What do they have with the shooting, except that they are the family of the gunman who happens to be half Algerian? Oh wait…

  5. stacyherbert says:

    @gold bullet – I think because the press is reporting that it may have been the brother who sent the email to the first paratrooper who was killed, or at least the email was sent from his computer so they have to rule him out as actually participating; and the press was reporting earlier that the mother was interfering with police who had surrounded her son; again I presume they will release her when and if they determine she had no role, most mothers I assume would try to stop the police from killing her son

  6. Hawkeye says:

    Interesting to note the contrast between the reactions; “lone” Neo-Nazis vs a seeming pervasive Al Qaeda.

    More examples of Asymmetric Ignorance.

  7. Al Kyder says:

    @ Gold Bullet

    There is a lot of bad blood still between France and Algeria

    Maybe NATO has gone rogue Who knows ???

    HOUSTON – Anadarko Petroleum Corp. said Friday that it reached an amicable resolution in a long-standing dispute with Algeria’s Sonatrach that will net the Texas company $4.4 billion over several years.

    The agreement, which must be ratified by the Algerian government, will provide Anadarko about $1.8 billion worth of additional crude volumes in the 12 months following the official sanctioning of the deal. Anadarko said it expected government approval within four months.

    Also, the production-sharing agreement tying both companies will be amended to give Anadarko a bigger share of profits from the companies’ joint operations, which at current prices would mean an extra $2.6 billion in net value over the remaining term of the deal.HOUSTON – Anadarko Petroleum Corp. said Friday that it reached an amicable resolution in a long-standing dispute with Algeria’s Sonatrach that will net the Texas company $4.4 billion over several years.

    The agreement, which must be ratified by the Algerian government, will provide Anadarko about $1.8 billion worth of additional crude volumes in the 12 months following the official sanctioning of the deal. Anadarko said it expected government approval within four months.

    Also, the production-sharing agreement tying both companies will be amended to give Anadarko a bigger share of profits from the companies’ joint operations, which at current prices would mean an extra $2.6 billion in net value over the remaining term of the deal.

  8. Palantír says:

    I remember the fire in the belly of fellow keiserville commenters on the eve of Breivik massacre in Norway before we knew who did it and why. How quickly some of them started pointing fingers at muslims and how quickly conspiracies grew around the killing. In the aftermath once we got to know that he was a white man, Christian extremist, the commenters fell silence.

    There were sooo many Norwegian immigrants (the brown/black colour, wrong religion type) who prayed with all they’re hearts for the killer not to be a Muslim, because they knew that if the killer were a Muslim, the reaction from some in the population would turn sour towards them and a few would most likely express their hatred through threats and violence towards them.
    There were people that actually got verbally abused during those hours where we didn’t know what happened, all because of a indoctrinated thought that all terrorists are Muslims…

    So yes, it matters what background a terrorist has in terms of the reaction the public will give to it.

  9. Tamir says:

    @Stacy,

    This guy is a kook. How can a person become so fantastically insane?
    Humans are a wonder, are they not?

  10. gold bullet says:

    @stacyherbert

    Thanks for clarifying it. If what the press reported is true, than that makes sense. Though on The Telegraph’s site it says that a second brother and two sisters were also arrested. For what? For being the brother and sisters of the gunman?

    This whole situation is very bad, obviously. And I fear that you may be right when you wrote in your summary that innocent civilians in Syria and Iran will have to pay for this with their lives.

    And here’s an update: ”10.44 Extremists must stop using the Palestinian cause to justify their acts of violence, Palestinian prime minister Salam Fayyad says. His comments come after the alleged gunman, Mohammed Merah, claimed his string of shootings were in revenge for the deaths of Palestinians. Fayyad said in a statement:

    Quote It is time for these criminals to stop marketing their terrorist acts in the name of Palestine and to stop pretending to stand up for the rights of Palestinian children who only ask for a decent life.”

  11. Tamir says:

    @Stacy,

    We have the same _stupid_ resistance to Halal meat in Belgium (propogated by the “Vlaams Belang” party. They need a brain transplant).
    I mean, how idiotic can a subject get?
    Would they dare to say the same about Kosher meat?! (I was born Jewish, by the way)
    In other words: Why the fuck do you care?

  12. susan says:

    @Stacy

    I agree 100% with your synopsis above – how very sad. I have been waiting for something like this to happen.

    BTW, did you know that Evelyn de Rothschild lives in Toulouse?

    :(

  13. TJ says:

    How can this guy be classed a serial killer with less than 3 names?

  14. Tamir says:

    @gold bullet,

    Well said. But are our Iranian friends not doing the same? Are they not hijacking the Palestinian issue to promote their (I mean the leadership) genocidal/terroristic/lunaic/psychotic/crazed/violent agenda?
    It is interesting, though, that Mr. Fayad is not denouncing that…

  15. Dylan says:

    Might as well have tattoed “obvious false flag agent provocateur” on his neck.
    Oh, they tracked him down quickly didn`t they?

  16. Danny Cunnington says:

    This media circus stink to high heaven. It’s too early to tell so it’s just watch the space.

    It was the same with the Norway thing In photographs of the guy’s arrest at the island, the VW bus that was supposed to have been blown up is seen clearly parked 2 hours after it had been blown up in Oslo. This is the “Lone gun man” meme. The Norway patsy couldn’t have possibly carried out what he claimed. In the Afghanistan “lone gunman” story running at the moment it’s the same thing. One guy who was in two different villages at the same time in one hour also had time to gather 11 bodies together, pour chemicals on them and set them of fire. In his spare time he raped TWO DIFFERENT women. This is what western media is currently claiming.

    So a French lone gunman right in the election cycle. Sarkozy. Former head of French military intelligence connected to Mossad. Sit back and watch the spin. Now they can boost Le Pen to weaken Hollande and then throw in a left wing party marching on Paris. They call it divide and rule.

  17. Tamir says:

    I have some good news from Israel – not there is person but this is _really_ good:

    “Israel has passed a law banning the use of underweight models in advertising. The legislation, known as the “Photoshop Law,” also requires that agencies tell their audience if they’ve digitally altered pictures to make models look thinner.

    “This is such a happy day for me, and it should be for everyone in the modeling business,” said Israeli modeling agency owner Adi Barkan, who has been working in fashion for more than 30 years. He said he lobbied Knesset members for years to get a law like this passed.”

    http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/03/20/new-israeli-law-bans-use-of-too-skinny-models-in-ads/?hpt=hp_c2

  18. Tamir says:

    @Danny Cunnington,

    Brother, you are so gullible.

    You are very susceptible to:

    * Well developed eastern imagination.
    * Well developed eastern propaganda.
    * Well developed western propaganda.
    * Conspiracy theories.
    * You name it – you know best.

    Think about this before you call me names…!

  19. Al Kyder says:

    @ Dylan

    I agree. Thats a lot of money that got stolen, Six Bazillion Dollars $$$ I would expect a few Algerian stake holders to go nuts over that one. In other words half the oil profits of Algeria will soon go to Texas.

    Also a court in the Algiers sentenced local al-Qaeda chief Abdelmalek Droukdel to death in absentia for terrorism and murder last week.

    Its the 50th anniversary of the French Algiers ceasefire.

    The former Tunisian ambassador to UNESCO, Mezri Haddad, refused to shake hands with Qatari Ambassador Ali Zinal, on March 7th due to Qatar’s interference in Tunisian affairs Algerian news website ElKhabar reported on March 14th.

    According to Haddad, Qatar conspires against and has destroyed the Arab world and that Algeria would be Qatar’s next target.

    Haddad told ElKhabar that he refused to shake hands with Zinal and that he told him “You destroyed Tunisia, Egypt and Libya. You created division in Syria and you plot against Algeria. You represent an enemy of the Arabs [...] it would dishonor me to shake your hand.”

  20. Danny Cunnington says:

    @Tamir, I totally agree. Why would anyone care if meat was Halal or Kosher if you are a meat eater and not Muslim or Jewish?

  21. Danny Cunnington says:

    @Tamir,Calling you names????

  22. gold bullet says:

    ”11.08 Breaking news from Reuters: alleged gunman Mohammed Merah was previously arrested for planting bombs in Kandahar, Afghanistan, according to Ghulam Faruq, the director of Kandahar prison. He was sentenced to three years in prison but escaped in a mass jailbreak in 2008 orchestrated by the Taliban, Furuq told Reuters.”

    So, before the innocent Syrians and Iranians start paying with their lives for this, it will be first the innocent in Afghanistan who will have to pay with their lives. The people who have been paying with their lives for 10 and a half years now for 9/11.

  23. Tamir says:

    @Danny Cunnington,

    Many Muslim religious scholars accept Kosher meat as Halal. I don’t even understand why this is an issue.

  24. @stacyherbert
    “No, this is no longer one deranged individual as the population had thought for 48 hours it is AN ENTIRE POPULATION THAT ARE EVIL!”

    Not. It is an ideology (Islam). The people following Islam are following an evil religion. Just look and read from the Muslim text about Mohammed and his life. Anything the Islamists do is supported by the example or teaching of Mohammed.

    WW2 was anti-Nazi, not anti-Germans.

    It is not all Muslims are evil. Many are wonderful people, I know a few. But if they are unwilling or unable to police their co-religionist and distance themselves from the terrorists, it is not a problem of the not Muslims to waste time and try to differentiate them. As someone wrote, “Evil win when Good People do nothing”. Currently they are doing nothing. And much press is covering for them. Only some people notice. Like some people notice the printing presses of money running and understand the consequences, some people notice Good Muslim never rat out Bad Muslims. And, if you follow enough the Good Muslims it turn out many of them (not all) are only Good when they think you are looking. When they talk with other Muslims they are difficult to differ from the Evil ones.

  25. F. Beard says:

    I looked up Halal meat and I don’t see why anyone (except a vegetarian) would be opposed to it.

  26. Al Kyder says:

    French right caught up in the storm it helped create
    Xenophobic comments have fuelled the attacks on minorities.
    http://www.canberratimes.com.au/opinion/politics/french-right-caught-up-in-the-storm-it-helped-create-20120320-1vhs8.html

  27. stacyherbert says:

    @Mirco Romanato – thank you for outing yourself as a racist, I don’t think anyone will object to my blocking you – go to Pam Geller’s site instead; I suspected this was the case yesterday based on your writings; all of the religious texts – and I have read the bible – justify all sorts of violence against others, and we have seen many hundreds of years of violence and torture committed in the name of Christianity so you can stop there with your nonsense; while the Inquisition raged across Europe, the Muslim nations of North Africa provided safe haven for many Christians and Jews; you can see ancient synagogues in places like Fez when the Jews were chased out of Europe by ‘evil’ Christians seeking their extermination; there are also ancient Jewish and Christian churches throughout Syria and Iraq that prove there is a long history of tolerance and during a time when persecution in Europe was rife

    There would be NO religious war going on between the West and Muslims if it were NOT for the oil under the Muslim feet.

    And notice that Mirco Romanato – from Northern Italy where there is a huge amount of racism as well over the past few years – doesn’t distance himself from the Italian governments support of the same ideology of salafism in Libya or Syria where our governments are arming these same exact ideologists.

  28. Al Kyder says:

    @ Mirco Romanato

    Sarkozy is certainly deranged, so I think we should kill all the French. They talk that wierd talk when they are with other Frogs, Why dont they speak English like normal people? Because they worship Satan.

  29. @StacyHerbert
    “I presume they will release her when and if they determine she had no role, most mothers I assume would try to stop the police from killing her son”

    If I was in al-Qaeda or a neo-Nazi and I did what he did, he would be the police trying to stop my mother from mauling me in a pulp.
    Different culture, moral, ethics, I suppose. The mom of the qaedist will surely side with his murderous son whatever he did to some kafir. And many other Muslims will do the same. This is the difference people notice and it is noticing. And it is this is hardening
    their hearts against the Muslims.

  30. F. Beard says:

    @Stacy,

    re persecution of the Jews by Christians:

    There is no warrant for it in the Bible BUT early in Christian history many Jews thought they were required to persecute Christians. Saul of Tarsus, for example, was an early persecutor of Christians before his conversion.

    Me, I refuse to be diverted from the root cause of our problems, the government enforced/backed usury for counterfeit money cartel.

  31. Tamir says:

    @Mirco Romanato,

    Be scientific. How many moms will support their crazy son’s deeds?

  32. F. Beard says:

    “There is no warrant for it in the Bible” FB

    Correction: There is no warrant in the Bible for Christians to persecute Jews but I am not sure about the reverse. Saul of Tarsus, for example, thought he was doing God’s work when he persecuted Christians.

  33. Al Kyder says:

    From cinema to prison: A Harry Porter star punished for rioting
    A British actor who appeared in six Harry Porter epics will have to take a break from cinema and get used to a different setting. Jamie Waylett has been jailed for two years for his ‘role’ in the last summer’s London riots.

  34. Tamir says:

    @Al Kyder,

    “…Waylett was specifically accused of being in possession of a Molotov cocktail while looting a drug store in the Chalk Farm area of North London.”

    IF this is true, they personally I would not have a problem with somebody taking out the little wizard. I have made my opinion crystal clear during the riots; You want to riot? that’s OK. You wanna get angry and protest, break demonstration laws? I’m cool. Do it. No nuts. Release steam. No problem. But when you start burning down people’s homes and businesses (think of the elderly that cannot escape, of the people of wheelchairs, the children etc.) I put a bullet in your head. I don’t want to sound extreme (I don’t think I am) – I apologize if I scare somebody.

  35. bit chin says:

    @ Mirco Romanato

    It’s easy to point fingers. How about bringing something to the table other than persecution? Are you religious? Do you advocate a religion other than Islam? If so you are a hypocrite and just made yourself look very foolish indeed.

    If you are not religious then I take your rant to mean all religion is evil and extremist religion is the worst evil of all. Aside from that was there anything else you wanted to share with us about your observations on life?

    “Evil win when Good People do nothing”

    You seem to be under the Christian delusion that Good will conquer Evil. I prefer the Buddist perception that good cannot exist without evil. We kill less people that way.

  36. susan says:

    I’ve been thinking about this. I have known Toulouse very well for 19 years. Recently (over the last less than ten years) one by one the small family businesses closed down, only to have glitzy ’boutique’ shops opening up, with one pair of shoes in the window and one member of staff (i.e. easily dismantled and low-cost). The centre has been aggressively bought up (I was offered an obscene amount for a pied-à-terre we have there, but said no) and has progressively been expensively renovated, using marble, chrome, glass, etc – all in the centre. The outskirts are a dump, with increasing amounts of homeless people. The new ‘shops’ are all selling skimpy lingerie, make-up or shoes, plus quite a few Gold purchasing shops (‘we’ll buy your scrap gold and give you real cash!’).

    Also many bollards in the roads (without the consent or consultation of residents like myself) which are only lowered when you present yourself and your vehicle to an intercom with a camera attached, operated by someone in an office far away. You have to have good reason to enter the centre.

    Add to this overwhelming amount of illuminati symbolism (pyramids with and without capstone; eye of horus; vesica piscis and other freemason stuff), and a Mayor named Mr Cohen and I think I get the picture:

    Centre of Toulouse, where Rothschild et al live (I can show you where!) will now be closed off to anyone without the right papers, large magreb population will be hassled by the CRS, and the final plan of Iran will be put into operation, with the illuminati safe in the knowledge that most people will think the centre of evil is London or Washington, whilst they sip their rosé in roof-top cafés in the beautful SW town of Toulouse.

    Perfect!

  37. Alf says:

    More death of the innocent… and for what?

    These were innocent children who were labelled Jewish by their assassin.
    And for that reason, or should I say excuse, was enough to murder them?…
    Why…I know all about the religious/political history and calls for retribution…
    So how many more innocent children will be murdered around the world
    simply because they’re carrying the wrong label.
    These children harmed no one, they were innocent.

  38. Danny Cunnington says:

    @Susan, Yes indeed. All they need now is to stage some event like Jewish kids getting shot to complete their city security arrangements and finally lock the unwashed masses out on “security grounds”. Oh wait…..

  39. Danny Cunnington says:

    A couple of weeks ago, a whole bunch of Salifists were taken prisoner when the Syrian army retook Homs. Captured with them were 130 French soldiers and 8 French officers. Somewhat implausibly they claimed they were prisoners of the Salifist gun men.

  40. susan says:

    @Danny – I agree with you.

    @All, in view of my comment above, please now listen to the Bob Chapman interview, which was made before the Toulouse incident, where he talks about asking for papers, peace-time martial law, etc:

    http://www.corbettreport.com/interview-482-the-international-forecaster-with-bob-chapman/

    This rings very true, don’t you think?

    As I’ve said before, the Zionists do not care about Jewish people – they are a very useful scapegoat. Divide and rule, works every time.

  41. LMAO@F.Beard
    Early Christians were all Jews it was a Jewish heretical sect or in Monty Python ergo they were ‘splitists’.
    You are obviously a humourless ignorant fool.
    The Roman state adopted it as the state religion, gutted it and packaged the Roman state within it to preserve the power structure and much of everything else right down to Roman senators socks.
    It’s like claiming lacrosse players are Native Americans because the game has the same name.
    Sectarian violence is an unfortunate part of the human experience and a direct consequence of our social nature or in your case anti-social nature.
    What a superior breed you Christians are castration of choirboys that complain about being fucked up the arse by priests, all done with official state collusion in post WWII Holland!.

  42. Tritone says:

    @susan
    “I like a pina colada and getting caught in the rain”
    ” I’m not into yoga I’m into champagne”

  43. flicks says:

    Hawkeye – good to see you again.

  44. Ptah says:

    The book Talisman by Graham Hancock is a must read for anyone wanting to know more about the history of Toulouse and the Languedoc in general. A lot of French mythology is constructed within the region.

    http://www.amazon.com/Talisman-Sacred-Cities-Secret-Faith/dp/0385660642

  45. MEJ says:

    Hmmm, so the salafists are the new bad guys? Wow, I guess we should be helping Assad against the salafists, then. Hmmm, I cannot tell who is the current bad guy without a program. Getting too confusing …

  46. gold bullet says:

    Update:

    BREAKING NEWS: Suspected Toulouse serial killer arrested – report

    http://rt.com/news/toulouse-serial-killer-arrested-108/

  47. flicks says:

    Bob Chapman supports Marina Le Pen – speaks for itself – far right. The homo and gun ‘lock and load’ talk makes me cringe, but the economic analysis is well worth listening to.

  48. susan says:

    @Tritone:

    please elucidate – I don’t get it?!

  49. susan says:

    @flicks

    Yes, he knows the Le Pen family, which I don’t exactly ‘get’, but one must take the geopolitical overview and put that to one side, weaving it into the mix later when we understand it all a bit more. Personally I read widely, often people with whom I do not agree, to get a good over-view. I think Chapman nails it in this interview, esp. as regards the Euro and Russia.

    Have you listened to it?

  50. flicks says:

    susan – yes and yes I think he nails it. But I’m not happy about they way he can treat Melody Cedarstrom when she hasn’t read The International Forecaster, nor would I want to met him with a gun in his hand lol

  51. flicks says:

    Just heard Bob talk about his 5 year old gand children knowing how to use guns and with pride. In the UK most people would find that very disturbing indeed.

  52. susan says:

    @flicks

    I used to be 100% against private gun-ownership myself, until I started figuring out what is really going on – and now I’m not so sure it is a good idea that all members of the public give up their guns (USA) and obey orders. As you know, in UK this doesn’t apply anyway, but given the gung-ho nature of the Police recently, it’s a pretty one-sided show for the moment, and the PTB have the guns, control of the finances, control of the food, control of the media, etc, etc. What do we have?

  53. Paddy says:

    nice convenient ‘terror’ attack to get Sarko the Islamophobic Reich-wing nutcase a few more votes. Don’t think it’ll work though, even if there are millions of gullible Frenchmen & women out there.

  54. Christophe says:

    I think that the timing of all this makes it pretty likely that it is a false flag operation. Apparently, the supposed Jewish bodies from these killings have all been shipped to Israel, so there is no evidence left…

    Interesting to hear about how Toulouse (beautiful city in the ideal climate of southern France) is a headquarters of the vile Rothchilds. No doubt they plan to use this event to lock that place down even more, as mentioned in comments above.

    In general, people in France are sick and tired of Jewish supremacy, of seeing their leaders all cow-tow to the CRIF (equivalent to AIPAC in the US), of laws that make historical investigations of the holocaust a crime, and of American/Zionist domination of their politics, with Sarkozy as the most glaring and obnoxious example to date.

    Although this media event will be used to clamp down on liberties, I seriously doubt it will have the desired impact on the psyche of the general populations.

  55. Vonda Bra says:

    @ susan

    thanks!!! for sharing all your Toulouse-insight …
    listening to Corbett-Chapman now …

  56. Vonda Bra says:

    @ flicks | March 21, 2012 at 3:24 pm |
    —But I’m not happy about the way he can treat Melody Cedarstrom when she hasn’t read The International Forecaster, nor would I want to meet him with a gun in his hand lol —-

    I missed a few Melody-Bob shows lately .. so what did he do to her???
    OTOH hand one must agree, that although Melody I´m sure is a sweetheart, she still is the most unprepared and uninformed radio host there is! after all these years.. they´re doing this together ;-) … sometimes very annoying to listen to … clueless most of the time :-)

    would you be so kind and tell me what happened ?… curious … thanks! :-)

  57. p'tite jaune says:

    Maybe the presidency of Marine Le Pen will enable the French to focus on their inherent and ubiquitous racism and will allow them to deal with their own loss of empire and move on. I think not. I think that, more probably, the power elites who run France from their cloistered, unassailable comfort, will proscribe more of the same. There will be more CRS on the streets to harass young ‘ethnics’ and there will be an intensification of the hatred that bubbles just below the surface of an outdated, shared, bourgeois value system. ‘Plus ca change’ as they might reflect themselves, over a mouthful of Fois gras and a glass of Sauterne. They need that boy to be alive at the end of this siege, or this could become White France’s ‘Black Swan’.

  58. susan says:

    Also recommended (apart from the song, perhaps ;) is this radio show, also recorded before the Toulouse event, but seems highly relevant:

    http://prn.fm/2012/03/18/podcast-the-lifeboat-hour-031812/

  59. Steven Rowlandson says:

    Don’t worry everyone there are lots of kooks in the world.
    The disciplined well organized ones get to rule you on one hand and on the other hand use some of their less disciplined collegues to attack you and make trouble around the world so that kooks in high office can take you freedom, property and life away to empower and enrich themselves. Remember that next time you line up to vote for your favorite kook/ politician. Don’t be surprised if the incident in Toulouse was a Black OP organised by government agents and was done for the purpose of persuading the french people to support an attack on Iran and Syria. Just like 9/11, 7/7, the shoe bomber, the underwear bomber ,Arab spring revolutions ,Iraq attack ect. There are plenty of hot heads out there who will make trouble if they could and are suseptable to being manipulated and supplied by western and isreali government agents…. The powers that be are just itching to have a continuous crack at the wog as the brits would say and need an overwhelming excuse to charge in and start WW3. Kooks every last one of them.

  60. Danny Cunnington says:

    @Susan, Bob Chapman is mostly right. If you check you will find that Germany was only allowed to reunite after it was already committed to the EU. If Germany pulled out of the Eurozone it opens up another possibility which is a nightmare for the NWO. Ever since before WW1, it was well known that if Russia ever partnered up with Germany it would become a superpower. Remember, there are no monarchies in Russia and Germany. Combine German engineering and organisational skills with Russia access to raw materials and massive energy supply capabilities and what you would have is a bloc that is more powerful than any other especially when you consider that Russia borders China and has extensive trade with China.

    If Germany leaves the eurozone all it would have to do to implement this would be to join the SCO. They don’t need any sort of union just trading agreements. The money power for the NWO is France, the UK and the US. There control is monarchist with state within states as follows: City of London (Financial control) Vatican City (Spiritual control) & Washington DC (Military control). This power configuration cannot act against a trading block consisting of Germany, Russia and China. They just can’t compete and they are already financially and morally bankrupt and this is only kept going by media control which is already on the ropes.

    Of course such a block would have no interest in resource wars which means they would stop to huge cheering from the rest of humanity. It would mean an end to western imperialism after more than 500 years of it.

  61. donk says:

    @susan, anyone in the UK can own a gun, as long as you don’t have a serious criminal record of course. There’s a guy down the road from me that sits in his back garden on sunny days and oils his Colt 45,Winchester and AK47, and he has a history of depression too.

    Are we on a Toulouse theme today?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyzdNUGwCu8 to emphasise the stunning baseline.

    Your streets were paved with love
    Your skies were blue
    Goodbye Toulouse

    I walked your streets in fear
    I washed your streets with tears
    Toulouse

    Goodbye Toulouse

    Your cafes tell the tale
    Of saddened millionaires
    Toulouse

    A million dreams I’ve had
    A million lies live told
    Toulouse

    Goodbye Toulouse

    Paula looked down on me
    From her high balcony
    Toulouse

    I will return some day
    So you can hear me say
    Farewell

    Goodbye Toulouse (x3

  62. flicks says:

    Vonda Bra – “would you be so kind and tell me what happened ?… curious … thanks!”

    Well he can get rather dismissive in tone and sometimes when she struggles to pronounce words you can just feel his condecension.

  63. flicks says:

    Danny Cunnington – yeah, something to think about that

  64. Mother Earth says:

    This is about the illusion of security french people have. It is another aspect of ‘democracy’. If your country fights a war you don’t agree with, stop it, or expect retalliation by the only answer to massively assymetric force: terrorism. It is unrealistic to expect to be able to bomb whole villages to oblivion and never to expect a nasty postcard imho..

  65. trooper dave says:

    Remember, nothing of consequence is coincidence or haphazard. It is all planned to an agenda.

  66. susan says:

    @Danny:

    thanks for that – very interesting. I am alone amongst the people I know to actually support a BRICS/SCO challenge to the current Anglo-American Empire, as I think most people in W Europe suffer from a sort-of superiority complex, where they couldn’t believe that 1) their media might be lying to them 2) NATO might not be the good guys 3) People of a colour other than white might be better educated/more intelligent/have better ideas for the way forward than ‘we’ do.

    It makes me almost physically ‘barf’ when I visit UK these days, to see and hear the sychophancy for the mini-Royals, or the Queen, or the Football team…..reminds me of a cartoon I saw recently:

    “I’m not in denial, I’m waiting for the right sort of reality to come along”. I mean, what will it take?? Although I think the turn-out for the NHS was good at the week-end.

    Re Russia and Germany teaming up: now there’s a thought! Do you know any more about this alleged alternative global currency that has been mooted by Andrew Maguire and Ned Naylor-Leyland? As you say: they have the industrial base, the resources, the work ethic….hmmmm, should I start learning Russia, German, Chinese or all three? If they are planning on this new silver price discovery mechanism, they’d better get in quick before WWIII kicks off…

    @Donk: make friends with your depressed neighbour! Quick!

  67. Talcott says:

    Sadly I hope your wrong Stacy(but probably not)

    I had a client whose children I taught guitar for over a decade, the mother was an French/White/Algerian Colonist who left during the war there. I was quite surprised at the level of anger and racism in such an educated person.

  68. stacyherbert says:

    @Talcott – yes, I wouldn’t dare put in print the things I have had told to me by French about Algerians, it’s truly shocking though

  69. Danny Cunnington says:

    @Susan, There’s no need to learn Russian, Chinese or German. The de facto language of the planet is English thanks largely to computers. Such a union has no need of an imperialist agenda. They could hold power through trade and cooperation with others. This has been the Chinese model for more than a thousand years.

    This is what the fighting is all about. The cabal currently holding power through a combination of fraud and force are surplus to requirements if things were to be reordered.

    They grabbed power at a time when there was widespread ignorance and illiteracy. This is not the case today. Their power is projected through finance, military (organised violence) and the control of ideas. Power always works in a triangle. The formula for power is: Knowledge, Responsibility, Control. The basic flaw of the old world order is that they have become irresponsible. They withhold knowledge. They exercise control through a fraudulent system. This is socially irrational and therefore irresponsible.

    If you rule through oppression, you create resistance. The flaw of ruling through oppression is that the only solutions to loss of control is greater oppression which loops into greater resistance.

    I don’t really know about any new money system other than the stuff I’ve heard from David Wilcox and Ben Fulford (Which I can’t debunk or fully corroborate). Obviously something big is going to change and holding physical silver and outside the bank cash is the best bet IMO.

    Growing food is also a good idea (as you already know). I’m gardening this week. I have this hand held seed driller that lays huge rows. It looks like the only way to use the yields of things like early crop onions from organic sets is to give them away to the whole village.
    (They are not winter keepers. I have my winter keepers planted from seed in another row). It’s spring time here. All day sunshine and 14 C in the shade. This is Zeelandic Flanders. Tomorrow is forecasted at 18 C. Light wind, full sun.

  70. Wolferl says:

    @ Danny Cunnington

    English as a language is a central part of Anglo-American world domination. A language defines the way people think and by that what is reality or not. The nativ English speaking world will never give up this huge advantage to rule the world. In the late 19. early 20. century German had become the international language of advanced science. This was probably one of the many reason why WW1 had to break out. Never underestimate the importance of language in international relations, it´s not just a neutral mean of communication it´s a pure mean of power just like armys, nuclear bombs, money and others.

  71. Al Kyder says:

    gold bullet |
    Update:
    BREAKING NEWS: Suspected Toulouse serial killer arrested – report
    -===-
    They are just taking him in for some more training, In a couple of years he will lead a force of irregular Foreign Legion troops on some Neo-Colonial conquest in Africa.

  72. H.Lang says:

    If France was allready a “Beacon to Islam” like the one Ken Livingstone has pledged to turn London into, the Prophet (Peace be upon him) would not have permitted that.
    I’m confident, that Hollande will take a lesson from the book of Labour.

    Ken Livingstone: I will make London a beacon of Islam
    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/andrewgilligan/100144946/ken-livingstone-i-will-make-london-a-beacon-of-islam/

  73. Wolferl says:

    They still didn´t shoot that fucker, c´mon give him his 40 virgins in paradise, that´s what he want anyway. ;-)

    (Don´t tell him he probably does not get virgins but just white grapes)

  74. Al Kyder says:

    @ Wolferl

    I dont think that argument holds true anymore.

    The problem is many languages are inadequate. In fact most would be more correct.

    French fell by the wayside because it is inferior to English as a language. Not because of British dominance. Spanish is even worse. French though has been a dead language for a long time. One of the reasons I wont speak French is because where I live, there are many French speaking Islands. The Language is trapped in whatever time these Is;ands were discovered. Even though I dont speak French, I can understand someone from Fiji better than someone from Paris. Thats because French is a dead language.

    As for the good languages, ones that are living, German went out of favour because Russian is a better option. Its also a more complete language.

    In Asia German is still popular among philosophy students and the like, it is viewed the same way as we would view Latin. I even heard a German word in a Singlish conversation last year. So it would seem that the psychopathic English language can even mug other languages for vocabulary from the other side of the world.

  75. Danny Cunnington says:

    @Wolfer, I’ve been in Luxembourg trade fairs where technical matters are spoken in German and “Can I have an ice cream” are spoken in French.

    I can’t agree that a language can be a domination. Anyone can learn it especially these days.
    You are spot on right about German being a really precise engineering language. It’s a great contribution to others in different spheres if Germany chooses to freely associate.

  76. Flopot says:

    Stating that someone is “Al Qaeda trained” is the same as saying “CIA-trained”.

    @Tamir

    “But are our Iranian friends not doing the same? Are they not hijacking the Palestinian issue to promote their (I mean the leadership) genocidal/terroristic/lunaic/psychotic/crazed/violent agenda

    I cannot believe you are still peddling the same old MSM bulls**t. Yes, Madmood is a holocaust-denying-schmuck-f**k but there is ZERO evidence that Iran is planning a SUICIDAL attack on Israel. More to the point, every intelligent Israeli source believes that Iran is not bent on some nuke-based final days scenario. Please stop spreading these MSM lies.

    And no, I have no idea why I use CAPS for emphasis one minute and this italics the next. But can we please stop with your Iranian bulls**t.

  77. Wolferl says:

    @ Danny Cunnington

    Since you are a native English speaker you refer to me as German. But i´m not. I´m Dutch or Deutsch. In that way your English language defines people in Europe in a different way than reality, in a way the English like to see the world. And this is true for everything, this is just an example. As a nativ English speaker you probably do not even realise this. By using this language as an international language your English reality becomes the international reality. Of course every non nativ English speaker may learn English, but by using this language he is forced to agree to the English view of reality. If i start to use the word “Dutch” in an English conversation for the word “German” nobody will understand what i mean, even if i think the use of word “German” in English is stupid. In that way English as a language is a mean of domination, because it excludes other realities. Even if the realities of other languages may be more more useful or objectiv.

    Btw, the Letzebuerger are pissed too these days because the immigrants think they do not need to speak Letzebuergisch, just French.

  78. Flopot says:

    @Danny Cunningham

    Language has always been used as a weapon of domination. Go ask the “Native Americans” (I have no idea what the current politically correct term is). Go ask the Irish. Or the Welsh.

  79. Al Kyder says:

    @ Wolferl
    If i start to use the word “Dutch” in an English conversation for the word “German” nobody will understand what i mean, even if i think the use of word “German” in English is stupid.
    =======
    This is not true. If you continue to use a word in English it will become a word. If all the German/Deutsch began using the term in his way it would become normalised within the language very quickly.

    Thats why English is dominant. Not because it is a language, but because it is an amalgam of many languages always ready to adopt new words from new languages rather than invent them.

  80. Flopot says:

    @Al Kyder

    “Thats why English is dominant. Not because it is a language, but because it is an amalgam of many languages always ready to adopt new words from new languages rather than invent them.”

    I am not denying the power of the language (I love it and distrust it at the same time) but English always got a helping hand, violently and non-violently.

  81. Flopot says:

    @Wolferl

    “Since you are a native English speaker you refer to me as German. But i´m not. I´m Dutch or Deutsch. In that way your English language defines people in Europe in a different way than reality, in a way the English like to see the world. And this is true for everything, this is just an example. As a nativ English speaker you probably do not even realise this. By using this language as an international language your English reality becomes the international reality. Of course every non nativ English speaker may learn English, but by using this language he is forced to agree to the English view of reality. If i start to use the word “Dutch” in an English conversation for the word “German” nobody will understand what i mean, even if i think the use of word “German” in English is stupid. In that way English as a language is a mean of domination, because it excludes other realities. Even if the realities of other languages may be more more useful or objectiv.”

    Thanks for this. Fascinating stuff.

  82. Alf says:

    Some good points here…
    @Al Kyder
    Its true the English language is open to change regarding meanings or the
    transfer of words from other languages…
    @Flopot
    “but English always got a helping hand, violently and non-violently.”
    This is another truth, if we are honest, if Hitler and Germany won WW2
    obviously we would be having this conversation in German.
    It’s a common saying here in the UK when referring to our older
    generation…that without their courage and determination we would
    be speaking in German…and its true.
    @Wolferl
    I’m not scoring points here, its an interesting debate and I agree with
    most of what you’ve said.

  83. mike says:

    These kind of events always leave me wondering, how is that they know so much, yet nothing until something happens, but once the crime has been committed, and culprit in handcuffs, suddenly a flood of propaganda flows to make sense of ever minutest detail… pose the questions, answer them, public satisfied, case closed, job done, lets go kill some more Muslims. Hang on, even if it is true that this guy acted on his own, a lone ‘Islamic fundamentalist’ Al Qaeda in France – who traveled to Afghanistan, and yes his ‘ex-lawyer’ advised him not to, where were the intelligence agencies, who conveniently always seem to know every other nonsense thing. I dont think any of this unknown, its all set up, directly, indirectly, known, expected, then used for their own political agendas. Yesterday, they were called Jews, todays they are called Muslims, the root of all evil that must be eradicated from this earth….. lets see how this all ends, but if history tells us anything, it hasnt even started yet.

  84. H.Lang says:

    @ Alf
    The victor writes the history and determines the lingua franca.
    Until the end of WW1 German had a significant user-base in the US, then the patriotic cultural cleansing started, – “Freedom Cabbage” instead of Sauerkraut (remember “Freedom Fries” instead of french fries during Bush), no German prayers anymore, no concerts with German composers, no “German” beer, German books out of the libraries, of course no German in public conversations, away with “German” socialism, beatings and an occasional lynching of a hyphenated American -, and at the end of 1918 German was basically dead as the no. 2 American language.
    WW2 just cemented that.
    Now America gets hispanicised within 50 years.
    America has chosen.

  85. Vonda Bra says:

    @ Wolferl
    I totally agree!
    the english language has taken over ….

    In german speaking countries, but the same almost EVERYWHERE else in Europe, f.e. what once was named “Nachrichten” now is “news” … and “news-flash” etc…
    people acting before an audience are “performing” no longer having an “Auftritt” … each and everything is being “casted” and “voted” etc. etc. etc……
    all that is going much too far for too long, to be only viewed as “adapting” language ….
    it is clearly a tool of domination over people!!!!!!!! allowed and even forced upon us via media etc… …. but NOBODY cares to preserve cultural attitudes in language.

    well, but at least the anglicans adopted words like, Kindergarden, Rucksack, Blitzkrieg, Gesundheit and Zeitgeist and stuff like that … ;-)

    I was lucky to have latin for 4 years in school …. what a great base to go in from there!
    Europe is/or was? a great place to be, in terms of getting a grip on different languages and their special varying “intrinsic” value and feeling for the people!!!! ;-)

    btw, you will never understand the spanish/gypsy term of ” el duende” if you never experienced it! :-)

    it keeps the brain, the heart and the soul going ……

  86. Alf says:

    @H.Lang
    “The victor writes the history and determines the lingua franca.”

    There’s a great book written by Howard Zinn, you’re probably
    familiar with it. Its called “The Peoples History of the United States.”
    I read it many years ago and it changed my view and understanding of how
    history is written…I’ve read this book many time since and I still find it
    fascinating…History, as you said, is the victors interpretation of events.
    It might be true, but usually its completely false.

  87. Vonda Bra says:

    @ Alf | March 22, 2012 at 1:47 am | @ @H.Lang

    —History, as you said, is the victors interpretation of events.
    It might be true, but usually its completely false.—-

    true words! many here on the blog either already have, or are about to experience this!
    it´s a fact !!!!!!!!!

  88. AG Hoarder says:

    “al queda” is made up CIA bullshit. It’s like “anonymous,” anyone can use the label claiming to be/apart or declared to be a member of “it.”

  89. Vonda Bra says:

    @ AG Hoarder | March 22, 2012 at 3:32 am |

    you´re absolutely right!
    “al queda” was the invention of the GWBush, and probably long before that,
    administrations, of a non existing, fictional “threat”, a created enemy out of thin air,
    to be penetrated over and over and over again… with the help of the “media” …
    now, it seems to be accepted and common sense?!!? … although “they” are now “allies”
    of the US when it comes to Syria and Lybia etc …. f####ing unbelievable how folk can be fooled … ! :-(
    axis of evil ? …. Ha! what a sad joke this all is …

  90. susan says:

    @Wolferl

    OK, OK, OK, I’ll learn German! I studied it at school, many years ago – beautiful language!

    @Danny

    Typical Spring weather here, 100s of seedlings on the go. FWIW, my own seeds doing much better than the bought organic ones, have done for years. I’m beginning to suspect they’re irradiated by the Post Office, for ‘my own security’.

    I agree with your assessment of power and control. Does this mean they have lost, and these are the death throes? Feels like it, but nothing so dangerous as a cornered animal.

  91. Danny Cunnington says:

    @Susan, Your own seeds will always do better mainly because you are selecting seeds that have grown in your conditions. I have a patch of last years carrots to grow as carrot flower this year. I just picked the biggest and best ones that obviously liked my garden. I should crop a few million seeds about August!

    Power and control: IMO they are losing but still have control. Yes they are very dangerous and unpredictable. Watch the news about Greece on Friday evening (Tomorrow). If there’s a problem they will announce it just after the close of business. Possibility of a disorderly default which would hit Greek banks on Monday morning. The only way to know is to wait and see.

  92. Wolferl says:

    @ Susan

    Good to hear you know German, but please, don´t get me wrong. I don´t promote German as a new “lingua franca”, it´s okay for me to use English. I just wanted to point to the fact that this causes the problem of a different perception of reality depending on the language you think in. This is easy to see for a non English nativ speaker but probably hard to understand if your nativ language (English) is the “lingua franca” at the same time.

  93. p'tite jaune says:

    Joseph Conrad was fluent in at least 3 languages: Polish, French and English, but chose to write ‘Heart of Darkness’ in English, as he did all of his books. James Joyce(Irish) Jesuit trained would have spoken Greek, Latin and presumably Gaelic, chose to write in English. Brian Friel’s (Irish) play Translations attempts to engage with this type of question. The Irish who emigrated to America chose American English as their ‘lingua franca’ and in the end it is about the postwar dominance of American culture that has expanded the use of English throughout. The language of business is English. English does not attempt to dominate european culture, most Europeans know that England is no longer relevant. America is culturally dominant and exports its ideology with every action it takes in the world. The ‘reserve currency’, the overuse of ‘Awesome’ M..Fucker’ ‘Butt’ ‘sooooo totally’ ‘LE BIG MAC’ ‘ The Borne Supremacy’ ‘Apple’ etc. how much more culturally pervasive do you want it. Wake up Europe It isn’t the British Empire you need to fear anymore, that’s a sideshow.

  94. hello says:

    Milk this tit Zarkosy, your so lucky this fell into your lap while on the campaign trail. Cameras are rolling and the public needs your leadership. (don’t forget to send Al ciada a thank you note for your “luck”).

  95. susan says:

    @Danny or anyone who knows:

    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2012/03/21/Russia-to-let-NATO-use-airport-as-hub/UPI-22651332343817/

    Just as I thought I was getting to grips with the multi-polar world emerging to take on UK-US hegemony, here Russia goes and has talks with NATO and works together with them (see other articles at bottom). Russia, it seems has also capitulated over Syria, opening the way for another Libyan-style blood-bath. *sigh*

    Is this all just strategic geopolitics, or worse: a truly NWO which includes Russia? I notice the old devil Kissinger was in Russia recently? I thought Putin was going to save us all!

  96. Danny Cunnington says:

    Quite right. The British imperialists did spread the english language up to about the beginning of the 20th Century but the current dominance of english comes from America and globalisation. Previously both Dutch and Portuguese have been maritime languages and French has been a diplomatic language probably because it’s more subjunctive than indicative. German seems to be a very good engineering language.

    Learning Latin is a very good basis because Latin grammar is reflected in all of the above languages, much of the words and parts of speech.

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