“You can pay protesters” and “we thought of planting troublemakers” – Governor Scott Walker

Stacy Summary:  Fascism in action.  Governor Scott Walker called by journalist posing as David Koch; listen and tell me who it is you think that Governor Scott Walker is working for?

37 comments on ““You can pay protesters” and “we thought of planting troublemakers” – Governor Scott Walker
  1. Tao Jonesing says:

    Wow. It looks like the buffalobeast.com is the subject of a denial of service attack.

    What do you want to bet that the federal government tracks down the crank caller and charges him with wire fraud?

  2. bammbamm says:

    It’s amazing how little there is to attack in a 20 minute conversation. Could you imagine if it were Hillary? Or Rahm? Or anyone else?

  3. JonnyJames says:

    Governor Walker is clearly a puppet-whore politician, just like the vast majority of them. Corruption is institutionalized. He is just one example. This is true for the puppet-Emperor on down. Of course we all know that demcracy is a sham.

    When running for office in the USA costs millions or billions, only the interests of wealth can be put in office. Only plutocrats or folks financed by them have any chance. There are no limits to spending as the Supreme Court has legally formalized “money” is “free speech”. One person, one vote, has been rendered a joke.

    When the Corporate Media Oligopoly has a stranglehold on political “debate” and have the power to effectively censor or ignore certain politicians and only allow candidates approved by the corporate/oligarchy, we can clearly see it is a sham. Remember how Ron Paul and Dennis K. were sidelined last time? Let alone all the others.

    The Winner-Takes-All electoral system (First Past The Post) favors two dominant parties (any comparative govt./politics text will detail this) resulting in a further limitation on policy choices.

    People say “but the US is a democracy, if the poeple did not want these crooks, they could vote them out” This is a rather superficial analysis and flies in the face of the facts

    The Propaganda Model is clear for all to see, one does not need to read “Manufacturing Consent” to figure it out.

    I recommend chekcing out “Democracy Inc.” by Sheldon Wolin,
    Authors like Bill Quigley, Prof. Steven Hill, Chris Hedges, Prof, Noam Chomsky, the late Howard Zinn, the late Chalmers Johnson, and many many others have detailed how US democracy is a complete sham.

    I call it the world’s most expensive Public Relations stunt.

  4. Bev says:

    Wisconsin: Solidarity Among Workers … And Football Players

    As Wisconsin’s public workers fight to keep their wages and bargaining rights, they’re joined by others involved in a labor struggle: their Super Bowl champion neighbors.

    by Dave Zirin


    Robin Eckstein, a former Wisconsin National Guard member, told the Huffington Post, “Maybe the new governor doesn’t understand yet—but the National Guard is not his own personal intimidation force to be mobilized to quash political dissent. The Guard is to be used in case of true emergencies and disasters, to help the people of Wisconsin, not to bully political opponents.”

    Already this week, as many as 100,000 people have marched at various protests around the state with signs that reflect the current moment like “If Egypt Can Have Democracy, Why Can’t Wisconsin?” “We Want Governors Not Dictators,” and the pithy “Hosni Walker.”

    But also intriguing is the intervention from past and present members of the Super Bowl Champs. Current players Brady Poppinga and Jason Spitz and former Packers Curtis Fuller, Chris Jacke, Charles Jordan, Bob Long and Steve Okoniewski issued the following statement:

    We know that it is teamwork on and off the field that makes the Packers and Wisconsin great. As a publicly owned team we wouldn’t have been able to win the Super Bowl without the support of our fans. It is the same dedication of our public workers every day that makes Wisconsin run. They are the teachers, nurses and child care workers who take care of us and our families. But now in an unprecedented political attack Governor Walker is trying to take away their right to have a voice and bargain at work. The right to negotiate wages and benefits is a fundamental underpinning of our middle class. When workers join together it serves as a check on corporate power and helps ALL workers by raising community standards. Wisconsin’s longstanding tradition of allowing public sector workers to have a voice on the job has worked for the state since the 1930s. It has created greater consistency in the relationship between labor and management and a shared approach to public work. These public workers are Wisconsin’s champions every single day and we urge the Governor and the State Legislature to not take away their rights.

    The players who signed on don’t have quite as high a profile as Super Bowl MVP Aaron Rodgers, but give it time. Rodgers is the Packers union representative in negotiations with the NFL, and on Tuesday the players’ union issued their own statement in support of state workers, writing:

    “The NFL Players Association will always support efforts protecting a worker’s right to join a union and collectively bargain. Today, the NFLPA stands in solidarity with its organized labor brothers and sisters in Wisconsin.”

  5. ehswan says:

    Check out Walkers face. Notice anything weird? Looks like a case of sloppy assembly!

  6. Tao Jonesing says:

    “It’s amazing how little there is to attack in a 20 minute conversation.”

    There’s little to attack there? Really? You’re missing the forest for the trees.

    In the first ten minutes alone he confirms (1) there is no budget crisis, it’s all about union busting, (2) he intends to frighten 5x the number of workers that will get laid off if he continues by sending them “at risk” notices, and (3) he is looking for ways to gin up criminal charges against the democratic legislators.

    Sounds like an admission that Wisconsin is a banana republic run by a dictator to me.

  7. Zorro / London says:

    @ Stacey

    Whose he working for?

    Think he used the term…”hes not one of us”…..but said that the guy was ok

    Another one of the “brotherhood”

    A minor player, but clearly tasked with “testing the water / resistance” first in Wisconsin.

    Its a typical Govt strategy….see how far you go, and if you get away with it, start implementing elsewhere


    Stalin once said…..”where there is mush….push with the bayonet!”

  8. AS says:

    bizarre same technics used in all the muslim worlds and Egypt, are you saying that the US are ruling the muslim world, you never been so close to the reality max la menace !

  9. Courage and Bravery says:

    This guy is toast!?.

  10. Chris says:


    Either that or so many of us are trying to access their site, and they aren’t prepared for the traffic after this coup.

  11. Olivia says:

    I know we are not discussing silver here, but fraud is fraud. Does anyone believe this story about fake silver? Has anyone seen it before? The testing video is useful, I guess.



  12. Dutchie says:

    nice action

  13. SapesYoSapes says:

    I just don’t see how Scott Walker is the bad guy?

    He really didn’t take much of that guy’s bait.

    Public employees form unions, take mandatory dues from their members, use those dues to fund political campaigns. Then once they have their guys in place, they negotiate with them for their salaries and benefits… and you best believe that when those negotiations are happening the elected official knows who is buttering their bread.

    I don’t see how ending that is a bad thing?

  14. charles says:

    Speaking live on CNN now.
    The tapes have been reported on in the mainstream press.

  15. charles says:

    If I was him I would armour up.

  16. Zorro / London says:

    @ Youri C

    Thank you for introducing me to Lindsay Williams,

    Good to hear someone vocalise much of that which i had already put together with some extra pieces and a timetable.

    Hard for most to take on board and accept. We park our cars in the same garage.

    Hope you get this

  17. Illinois Brandon says:

    In the Chicago we call Wisconsin a suburb well I hope the suburb can show the city the way. Chicago elected Wall Street shrill Rahm Emnauel as Mayor last night.

  18. Kent says:

    Here’s what I find interesting about this website: I agree with most of the financial commentary and find most of the political commentary total B.S. My suggestion is to stick to the financial side and leave the political commentary to Rush. Ha!

  19. Iwantmymtv says:

    What a scumbag!

  20. anonymouse says:

    Wow he certainly wanted to impress his masters. Mr Scott Walker seems like a politician with US presidential capabilities and ambitions. Just another Gopher for the Central Banking Cabal….LOL..But he seems to have forgotten that loose lips sinks ships.

  21. anonymouse says:

    LOL Mr Scott Walker invoking the ghost of Ronald Reagan. They all end up at the Fletcher Memorial Home.


  22. steve says:

    He’s an American politician. isn’t it in their Constitution that they shall go to the highest bidder?

  23. anonymouse says:

    So is the US State of Wisconsin and Gov Scott Walker the equivalent of Baldrick running for election at the rotten borough of Dunny-on-the-wold?


    Somewhat like Chicago Political machinations…LOL..Who does these Politicians actually serve??

  24. patrick says:

    I think it’s great that access is so freely given to the people, the one’s at the very top. It’s particularly delicious when everyone else is privy to the conversation!

  25. Capt. Ray says:

    As it often is; good people say bad thinks and bad people say good things, sometimes. Not all of the time, just sometimes.

    They have a plan and they’re acting on it, so it seems. Good for them.
    We do have a plan too…, right?!

    “Je maintiendrai… aussi!” (LOL)

    That’s all I can say after listening to these two professional actors.

  26. Van says:

    With all this Union busting going on…the perfect time to ask for a pay raise.

  27. Major Major Major says:

    And Stacy wins the prize. This is total fucking fascism. It’s hard to believe how obedient Americans are. (I don’t even like the ‘submit’ button for this comment!)
    If this tape of Walker can’t push people into direct action, I don’t know what will.

  28. Robert Mockan says:

    Government in the state of Indiana know what side of the toast has the butter on it. The Deputy Attorney General has been FIRED, for saying real bullets should be used on protesters in Wisconsin. He no longer works there. And being FIRED for cause, especially for saying what he did, let us hope he NEVER works elsewhere either, unless it is a position more suited for him. Sweeping parking lots, or being a greeter at Wal Mart, for example.

  29. Trip says:

    Fascism in action? Really? Where, when? By using the powers legally at his disposal? By playing hardball to “do the right thing?” to “get the world moving again?” Sounds like a man who thinks its morally responsible to reign in and reduce government spending.

    Who does he work for? The people of Wisconsin, I think he says. Where in this conversation is there any insinuation otherwise? Does he work for Koch? “Thanks for your help,” he says. Just exactly what are you reading so much into with that statement? Is that the same as, yes massa?

    Working for the central banks? How is reigning in spending and government debt working for the central banks?

    The public unions have had nearly free reign into the pockets of the taxpayers because of their block vote that’s available to the highest concessioner. Public unions should be banned. It’s public service. The state is not there to service the public worker. It’s the other way around. Serve or leave. The state with an informed taxpayer will offer a fair wage and compensation. If you don’t think it does, then get out of it. There is no place for collective bargaining in this relationship. Grievances should be directed to the taxpayer to appeal for better compensation, etc.. The taxpayer says yes or no, not some politician or politician crony whose concession is available for a block of votes or other favors. Public union collective bargaining is simply extortion of the taxpayer via the power of a corruptible intermediary.

    Limited government, true public service–foundations of a free society.

  30. maxkeiser says:


    the people disagree and they have the right to seek regime change in Wisconsin

  31. Trip says:

    Uh, the people of Wisconsin elected Walker and a Republican legislature. I don’t think the people disagree.

  32. trip-when he says ‘do the right thing’ and ‘get the world moving again.’, in who’s interests do you think he might be referring to?

    cant please all the people all the time right..? i dont know this guy but i cant imagine he gives 2 shits to please the lower earning majority-so he’ll just boost the wealth of his promoters instead… im guessing…even his wife doesnt find him as cuddly wuddly as do you.

  33. Robert Mockan says:

    Scott Walker is the proverbial preachers son and boy scout (actually Eagle scout). He was elected on a platform of smaller government, less tax burden on citizens, and “people create jobs, not government”. Read his biography here.
    Weighing the evidence, I’m inclined to believe the phone call may be an effort to discredit him. To turn public opinion against him. Before reading too much into the alleged conversation between Walker and the impostor impersonating Koch, I would want to know the (verifiable) circumstances of how that recording was released to the public. All politicians have political enemies. Crowds can be manipulated. The issue of “union busting” IS volatile. But this IS a public union. The TAX PAYER is on the hook for the salaries of these union members.
    I would want to know MUCH more about all the details of what is happening in Wisconsin before reaching a definite conclusion one way or another about Scott Walker being one of the good guys, or one of the bad guys. Thus far however the evidence points to him being one of the good guys, in my opinion. Nothing in the alleged phone call is incriminating. In fact considering he thought it was a billionaire on the other end I would think a bit of posturing might be called for.

  34. Indeed says:

    I’ve gotten an email yesterday that said that the unions are willing to give up all of the “Want list” except the right to have a useable union.

    I hope that this is true. I hope Walker wakes up. What’s his salary? Is his job guaranteed? No government should limit the right to assemble.

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