“This tragedy does not have a solution”

Stacy Summary:    It seems like a situation destined for disaster, but do you see any way out of it?  Have a solution to this tragedy?

166 comments on ““This tragedy does not have a solution”
  1. Marc Authier says:

    Banking in 2010 is a capital crime. It’s a shame the electric chair is not used today for these mass murderers and these criminals against humanity. The greek banskters should be arrested and court marshalled for high treason crimes. It’s not a coincidence that Milosevic, that mass murderer from Yougoslavia, was in a precedent life a bankster.

  2. Dedo says:

    @W L,.. You’re behind the times,.it’s called “Bio ethics” nowadays,…
    and propaganda is called “public relations”.
    Oh oh,..and killing folk is called euthanasia or collateral damage, and highway men are called policemen, organized crime is called Government,.(and one for the road),…LIARS are called politicians,…
    LOL,…: )

    Tell people enough times and they’ll believe anything,..(hint:ACCGW)

  3. Youri Carma says:

    Bob chapman talking bout Greek Coup!

    Download September 03, 2010 (hour 3) AJS with Bob Chapman (Listen from 12.30 Min) http://archives2010.gcnlive.com/Archives2010/sep10/AlexJones/0903103.mp3

    The Alex Jones show archives are available here: http://www.gcnlive.com/programs/alexJones/archives.php

    Bob Chapman’s Friday Economic Report: The Reckless Mess Created by The Fed – 1/3 (Listen from 4:17 min) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifb3xOjZAUk

    Bob Chapman’s Friday Economic Report: The Reckless Mess Created by The Fed – 2/3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7EEkdEfkUc

    Bob Chapman’s Friday Economic Report: The Reckless Mess Created by The Fed – 3/3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLPW-aH5zSc

  4. Jahilea says:

    @Greek coup d’état

    Friday Sept 03, 2010
    On the Friday visit of Bob Chapman on the Alex Jones show, Bob states that a coup is expected in Greece this month. Missing some lead into the statement, you can hear the statement starting at 5min 30sec in this youtube video.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5cTEVOOFVw

  5. WL says:

    @Marc Authier

    Fascism comes from Statism (the enabler). Progressives are Statist, the early progressives were both Republican and Democrat. I would consider most modern republicans (not Ron Paul) Progressive (Statists) and socialists, they have just dropped the label.

    The essential difference is Miliatry Statist vs Welfare Statist…

  6. Marc Authier says:

    @Dedo
    Like strerilizing the retards and the poor in the land GOD United Snakes of America in the 20′s. Hitler a great fan of United Snake of America went one step further in bio-ethics. He used CO2 gas chambers to euthanize the old, the handicapped and the mentally ill. A couple of years later he used Zyclon B gas made the german Monsanto of the time IG Farben. Ah Greenies and bio-ethiticians. We never got rid of these bastards. In reality today they are all avid Greenies.

  7. Dedo says:

    I thought this excerpt quite apt’ for the Bill Gates(TED talk) link I posted:

    Sterilization Experiments
    These experiments were conducted by means of X-ray, surgery and various drugs.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_experiments

  8. Youri Carma says:

    Bob chapman talking bout Greek Coup!

    Sept 02 2010 part 1 (Listen from 3:40) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj6nwQP7IXo

  9. Marc Authier says:

    Bill Gates one fine example of modernized USA nazi movement. Did you that Papa Gates was a stauch nazi eugenist ?

  10. Dedo says:

    All these experiments have been going on for millenia,..it’s just the perception of them has been altered,..go figure !

    “Perception IS Realtiy”,..WUAhahahahahaaha

  11. Youri Carma says:

    Coca-Cola and Facebook Promoting RFID Chips to Teens (video) http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=4851

  12. WL says:

    Another quote… Sound familiar…

    And let us look at the words of someone who was actually in Germany in the 1930s and who thus saw Nazism close up. He said:

    “If I’d been German and not a Jew, I could see I might have become a Nazi, a German nationalist. I could see how they’d become passionate about saving the nation. It was a time when you didn’t believe there was a future unless the world was fundamentally transformed.

    So who said that? It was the famous historian, Eric Hobsbawm (original surname: Obstbaum), who became a Communist instead and who later became known as perhaps Britain’s most resolute Communist. Hobsbawn clearly saw only slight differences between Communism and Nazism at that time.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvJJP9AYgqU

  13. Marc Authier says:

    @Dedo

    In reality we do not know what reality is. Perception plays tricks. A good example ? You perceive with your eyes the Earth is flat. You perceive that the Sun turns around the Earth. Everything is about manipulating people and their false sense of perception with their uncomplete and defective brains and organs. Reality is not what it is. It’s always have been like that. Try to explain matter with quanta physics to average Joe or a christina fundementalist ? Good luck ! Finance and banking is fundementally like that.

  14. Dedo says:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731#Description

    A special project code-named Maruta used human beings for experiments. Test subjects were gathered from the surrounding population and were sometimes referred to euphemistically as “logs” (丸太 maruta?).[11] This term originated as a joke on the part of the staff due to the fact that the official cover story for the facility given to the local authorities was that it was a lumber mill.

    And folk think this stuff is locked away in the past,….hahahahahaha : )

  15. Dedo says:

    @Marc,..Good comment,. I agree totally !

  16. Youri Carma says:

    Follow Up on UFO Wars http://www.edgrimsley.com/videos.html

    UFO ‘battle’ over Nuremberg, Germany in 1561 http://www.ufoevidence.org/cases/case486.htm

    At sunrise on the 14th April 1561, the citizens of Nuremberg beheld “A very frightful spectacle.” The sky appeared to fill with cylindrical objects from which red, black, orange and blue white disks and globes emerged. Crosses and tubes resembling cannon barrels also appeared whereupon the objects promptly “began to fight one another.” This event is depicted in a famous 16th century woodcut by Hans Glaser.

    Kometen und andere Himmelserscheinungen – Comets and other Celestial Phenomena http://www.forschung-fischerprivat.de/fischerweb/Kometen.htm

  17. F. Beard says:

    Try to explain matter with quanta physics to average Joe or a christina fundementalist ? Marc Authier

    I am a Christian fundamentalist and I have a keen, if non-mathematical interest in quantum physics. I would bet that quantum physics is SIMPLER than our macroscopic world if we were only used to it in everyday life.

  18. Dedo says:

    From Scientific American
    The infamous Nazi medical experiments on human subjects represent an extreme of government arrogance. But many other nations, including the U.S., have done similar if less egregious things, usually in the name of national security. Radiation, chemical agents and disease-causing agents are tested on people who have not given informed consent and may not even know they were test subjects.

  19. F. Beard says:

    Pardon me, Stacy, for not hating the Koch bros earlier; I did not realize they were the funders of “belt-way” libertarians whom I loath.

  20. ronron says:

    @Namarama. wow. yeats last three vids. holy fuck.

  21. F. Beard says:

    He used CO2 gas chambers to euthanize the old, the handicapped and the mentally ill. Marc

    Correction; They used CO (carbon monoxide), a deadly poison created by incomplete combustion. Typically they used the exhaust of a truck similar to the way some folks off themselves today.

  22. Youri Carma says:

    Follow Up On: Miami airport shut down in possible contamination scare http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TRAVEL/09/03/miami.airport.evacuation/?hpt=Sbin#fbid=5B9J0JBT15j&wom=false

    “70-year-old scientist once spent time in prison nearly a decade ago for illegally shipping vials of deadly bubonic plague bacteria”

    Read FPP Post: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=185495.msg1099188#msg1099188

  23. Marc Authier says:

    @WL
    Never said the contrary. Communism is the left pat of the buttocks. Nazsim is the right part of the buttocks. And us we are in the middle. :) I totally agree with you. That being said the statism in question profits FIRST and FOREMOST to momopolistic capitalism. â la Rorschchild. It’s no coincidence that Wall Street financed Stalin and Hitler at the same time.

  24. nama rama says:

    @ronron:

    I threw eggs at tony blair today,
    do I deserve a drink?

  25. Marc Authier says:

    @F Beard
    Errare humannum est. :)

  26. Marc Authier says:

    @nama nama
    You terrorist ! Eggs will from now on be banned from Ireland because of you. :)

  27. Marc Authier says:

    @Nama Nama
    Wher they hard boiled eggs or roten eggs ? Nothing aa more perfumed and descriptive as the odour of rotten eggs to describe Tony Blair.

  28. WL says:

    Rockefeller, Eugenics, Nazi connections

    http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/new_world_order/UN_Rockefeller_Genocide.html

    Rockefellers and other elitists are still pushing Eugenics, just under a different name….

    George Bernard Shaw Fabian Socialist, hero of modern Progressives…

    “WE need a humane gas” … Zyklon B http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zyklon_B

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgpaKkrZex4

  29. F. Beard says:

    @youri,

    UFOs have been seen throughout the ages but generally they appear to be just a little more advanced than the technology of the time thus making them comprehensible to the people of that time. That leads many to conclude
    that they are deliberate deceptions by demonic powers.

  30. WL says:

    @Marc

    I didn’t intend to imply disagreement. Rather, that the term “Nazi” has been distorted through the rewriting of history that many today do not really understand it and use it in a way that renders the term contextually void.

  31. Marc Authier says:

    @F, Beard
    You know what I mean when I am talking about the movement. It’s more a political movement that a christian movement. That’s the problem with words. Words like fundemental are always high jacked

  32. Metoo says:

    listening to the show just now, you been on the columbian marching powder Max you won’t shut up :) poor Stacey can’t get a word in

  33. Dedo says:

    @Marc,..While mulling over one of your posts, I’m reminded of how Fintan Dunne(Courtesy of Tofu) explained on one of his blogs,..how he has over the last 15 years tried to assuage the “feelings” of bias on any perspective, in order to better comprehend the whole.
    A similar strategy I’ve used over the years,…
    As we’ve often discussed, here on this forum,.it’s a hard task(albeit impossible) to experiment with objectivity,… but,compared to the “norm”,. (IMO), a lot more expedient

  34. Youri Carma says:

    Trichet gets Frantic About the Greek Situation

    “At the press conference in Italy, Trichet also said it would be “the worst possible option” to remove crisis-hit Greece from the eurozone.”

    From: Trichet calls for united EU at the IMF (AFP) http://tinyurl.com/2g8uaum

  35. Youri Carma says:

    EU deal to curb speculative trading close: commissioner (AFP) http://tinyurl.com/34eewwj

  36. Fiatmentalist says:

    @Dedo

    Nah it was meant as a piss take,since historicaly the value of fiat currencies tend towards the value of printing the paper,or in this case replacing copper, historicaly a monitary metal, with steel.

    Lighten up dude, this aint the end its just the beginning :)

  37. Youri Carma says:

    Afghan Bank Bailout: U.S. To Prop Up Kabul Bank To Prevent Crisis http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/05/world/asia/05kabul.html?hp

  38. F. Beard says:

    It’s more a political movement that a christian movement Marc Authier

    Yep, due to Christian ignorance of the Bible, particularly the Old Testament.

  39. Paddy says:

    just on that piece about Anglo-Irish being decommissioned:

    “European Competition Commissioner Joaquin Almunia, who will have the final say on Anglo’s fate, said he would meet Brian Lenihan in the coming days to discuss the matter.”

    Amazing isnt it. A Spanish bureaucrat that most Irish have never heard of, operating out of Brussels, gets to have the final say on whether or not to shut down a former corporate bank that has caused huge damage to the Irish economy.

  40. Jayme says:

    “It’s no coincidence that Wall Street financed Stalin and Hitler at the same time… And us we are in the middle.” – Marc Authier

    i agree

    The very fact that both sides of a conflict are funded is proof that the backers/bankers haven’t got a clue as to outcome. They are equal to but no better than the lowliest and poorest among the living and are frightened.

    The fact that we are in the middle is proof that it is not our game but only that we are the trusted mediaries between them and nature and we individually will continue to shoulder this game. The resources mediated through us (most of us here anyway) were con’ed, stolen, or beaten out of “we… in the middle.” The idea of Hegelian dialect comes secondary to the originating forces of conflict and subsequent synthesis out of the chaos. The guys who think they are the ones defining the game and synthesizing outcomes (creating markets), are in fact, being defined by “the game.” They are the monsters from our id that we brought into being. How many of us wouldn’t want to be richer? If I don’t see or know about the sweat shops of the laborers in China, do I care about their condition? A people do deserve the government they get. This is not an aggressive statement, only a logical circularity spoken out of chaos. Chick’ns and eggs.

    Goedel’s incompleteness theorem is largely ignored because he implies that logic fails except through absolution to a higher dimension or power. No one wants to think they aren’t in control and so they just continue expanding their dialectical war into higher dimensions or seek to stabilize their turf such as through derivatives and hedge funds. There is no control and no stability, just the chaotic dynamics of dualism and the belief that one’s self can or must be in control. That’s what makes it so beautiful, horrific, and sublime.

    The problem is that to bring a higher order and sustained levels of global wealth, there must be a concordance between humanism and nature. The childish belief that the globalists appear to embody, that they can break from nature and fly to the sun, will bring them the same fate as Icarus, the boy who never grew up. If these guys don’t grow up to be responsible like Daedalus, we’re all headed for a great dissolution. Even the idea of the fleshy parts of the butt and that which lies between (the valley of the anus) is a polarizing ideology. I’m afraid there is no divine right to succeed in the quest for the sun – only the fate of Sisyphus … if we don’t go extinct altogether.

    MASS EXTINCTION UNDERWAY
    The World Wide Web’s Most Comprehensive Source
    of Information on the Current Mass Extinction
    http://www.well.com/~davidu/extinction.html

    All the options posed so far appear to be based upon a war between people, nations, classes, or man and nature. The idea of standing around and waiting for synthesis out of this method of conflict generation (hedging our bets) is going to do nothing but synthesize more of the same type of solutions which largely ignore the deep ecology and our intimate dependancy on nature. We all lose under such solutions. Fighting nature is like punching ourselves senseless. It’s a silly conflict.

  41. Youri Carma says:

    Afghans Withdraw Money From Troubled Bank http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0y3GpYvz2s

  42. Youri Carma says:

    Angry crowds meet Blair at book signing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-YSFNuO2-0

  43. Dedo says:

    @jayme,…Nice post ! : )

  44. swell says:

    @Marc Authier

    Years ago, I was watching C-SPAN and Dr. John Talbot, who was President of the American Psychiatric Association, was on with Joe Biden, the pol who later made his bed with the credit card and banking industries and was the poster boy for bankruptcy reform, (so that troubled borrowers couldn’t escape the clutches of the banks with bankruptcy, and ah, look where he is now).

    The topic of the show was the war on drugs and Dr. Talbot was pitching the role that psychiatry could play in prosecuting the war. Dr. Talbot was proposing the use of electro-convulsive “therapy”, (shock treatment), lobotomies and psychotropic drugs on offenders.

    I promptly called the UCLA School of Medicine’s library, and asked a resource librarian for titles of books they might have on bio-ethics. She asked, “Bio-ethics? What’s that? We don’t seem to have any books on that subject.”

  45. Jayme says:

    @Dedo – thx.

    Overall, “casino gulag” is quite an appropriate and more direct term.

    Here’s a solution to feed the greek wealthy class as the lower classes become less productive:

    http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Baby_Eating

    and

    A Modest Proposal
    By Jonathan Swift (1729)
    http://www.art-bin.com/art/omodest.html

    I recommend gourmet babies myself. mmm lol

    Sad part is that this satire by Jonathan Swift was taken seriously by some of the “upper” class of his day when he wrote it.

  46. Marc Authier says:

    Yes there is a solution. Just pay what you can pay and say to the creditors go hang themselves if they are not happy. That’s about it.

  47. Global Financial Jubilee!!!2011!!!!!!!!!

  48. Bel-Ami says:

    @WL

    Adolf Hitler and the Nazi party he ran were not Socialist. In fact, the first inhabitants of Concentration Camps were Communists, Socialists and Trade Unionists. This is well known by Historians and is actually testified to by Goering, Hjalmar Schacht and many other prominent Nazis at Nuremberg(Cf. Nuremberg Trial testimony). The Right Wing attempts to paint Hitler as a “leftist” flies in the face of all Historical evidence. The “Night of the Long Knives” was not only a purge of the Leftists in the party but also a campaign of sustained violence and assassination against “Reds”, be they Communists, Socialists or Trade Union leaders. It’s amusing you follow Glenn Beck’s revisionist tripe. Scam Artists always prey upon the ignorant.

    Here’s a Quote:

    “Most prisoners in the early concentration camps were German Communists, Socialists, Social Democrats, Roma (Gypsies), Jehovah’s Witnesses, homosexuals, and persons accused of “asocial” or socially deviant behavior. These facilities were called “concentration camps” because those imprisoned there were physically “concentrated” in one location.”

    Here’s the link:

    http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005144

    The quote is from the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum webpage.

  49. IceIce baby says:

    speaking of civil war…

    Armed Anarchists to Protest Anti-White Film with Machetes
    by Andrew Yeoman under Uncategorized

    Oakland, Cali. – On September 3, 2010, the Bay Area National Anarchists (BANA) will protest the release of the film Machete at multiple locations in the Bay Area of California. This protest is being coordinated with like-minded individuals and grassroots organizations nationwide.

    In Hollywood’s latest anti-White film, the hero is a blood-thirsty illegal alien of Latino ethnicity who slaughters white people with a myriad of weapons. White people are presented as the “bad guys.” Even the trailer of the film—which can be viewed on YouTube at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIxcVzwLR1k—begins with the militant Latino telling the viewers that he has a “special message” for the people of Arizona, who valiantly stood up for Western Culture and state sovereignty vis-à-vis a recent law that prescribed penalties for those who aid in the invasion of our country.

    Machete was able to be produced in part by tax incentives and access to locations that were provided by the Texas Film Commission—a division of Gov. Rick Perry’s office.

    Andrew Yeoman, the founder and spokesman of BANA, said, “The members of my organization plan to protest outside theaters that are showing this film. We are bringing our own machetes; it is time our people stand up and say, ‘Enough is enough! No more Hollywood filth!’”

    The protesters will be armed with flyers as well.

  50. WL says:

    @Bel-Ami

    You seem smart and write well, but smearing me really is not a good point of argument. While i encourage challenges your smears are typical of an emotive defense. Not reasoned.

    Try addressing the points in the article that I posted…

    I am a Socialist, and a very different kind of Socialist from your rich friend, Count Reventlow. … What you understand by Socialism is nothing more than Marxism.
    Adolf Hitler, spoken to Otto Strasser, Berlin, May 21, 1930.

  51. chalcedonite says:

    Yes, Restitution from the banking swindlers, debt forgiveness, Jubilee.

  52. chalcedonite says:

    There is no forgiveness without restitution.

  53. chalcedonite says:

    There is no restitution without justice… There is no justice without absolute law. There is no absolute law without God.

  54. Tom says:

    @ Marc

    Why not tell the banksters this before sending another nickel,

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNail6JjEiE

    I hoped they would make it the new Icelandic/Irish/Greek/Estonian,Hungarian…. you get the point… – National Anthem.

  55. Marc Authier says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5ZFtvhXslU&feature=related

    The real objective. 100% unemployment rate. That way the problem will solved. Why didn’t I think of this before. The more people stop looking for work the better the unemployment rate is !

  56. Chris Gould says:

    Where ignorance is the issue
    Information is the answer
    If There Is An Alternative to Chicago Monetarism
    (TINA, there is no alternative, MT)
    An ignorant audience awaits
    Exquisitely espoused insights
    Designed to put the lie
    To the captured markets
    Of economic text-book recipients
    Which fail to recognize topics
    Such as credit and debt.
    Just keep banging the same drum,
    If the message has merit
    The audience will come.

    I’d recommend subtitles of each episode
    in Greek,Mandarin and German as a start.
    (You-tube views would quadruple your audience in a week if you pursued any of these challenges)
    People who don’t ask ‘Who’s this Adam Smith’
    Are those in need of a Minsky refresher course
    Hudson Keen and Keiser aren’t even selling the ideas which have the capacity to turn the world on it’s head, perhaps interviewing through a translator will be the key which unlocks the viewers of infinity….

  57. I.O.U. says:

    Now Dr. Sinn is stating that Greece should be thrown out of the Eurozone in order to prevent Greeks from fighting amongst themselves, an imminent danger apparent only to him. Earlier this year he wanted Greece thrown out of the Eurozone because he reasoned another Greek debt crisis in the Eurozone is only preventable if examples are made of the rule breakers… of which Europe has many…

  58. I.O.U. says:

    Been thinking a lot about it, being Greek… Greece should SLOWLY exit the Eurozone because devaluing currency is its best bet for survival. This will be humiliating for Greece, and so it must be advised long in advance and part ways on seemingly chummy terms with the EU, otherwise there will be a lot of class rage and anger at politicians. Quite feasibly violence too, lets avoid another civil war… knock on wood…

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