Meet the Carbon Trillionaires Who Have the US on its Knees (Not)

Stacy Summary:  Getting down on bended knee is for those who believe their dollar of debt is worth something.  The fact is these chumps are trading their finite resources for some pieces of paper that the US can print up at will, so we have to pretend we are on our knees otherwise they just might catch on to our scam.   Jibber Jabber thread as well (ha ha, as if you needed to be told)!

137 comments on “Meet the Carbon Trillionaires Who Have the US on its Knees (Not)
  1. dan valley says:

    Interesting Timing on Lawsuit

    Righthaven now suing the Democratic Party

    Wherever Ron Paul’s name is posted on the web, the DP community is going to find it 🙂

    2010, we put our people in Congress
    2012, we want our country back

    Ron Paul 2012 pledge drives

  2. dan valley says:

    Video of LVRJ’s Agent Who is Suing the Daily Paul

    It is an mp4 that has to be downloaded and played locally on your computer. So far I have been unable to find it on YouTube.

    See the first segment, about 4 minutes in.

  3. Youri Carma says:

    @In the end, we are all damned

    Cops Taser Senior In His Own Home For Disobeying Command

    Missouri Police Taser Boy With Broken Back 19 Times

    Police Dashcam – Dog Shot By Lagrange Missouri Police

    Cop Arrests Fire Fighter for Helping Injured Person

    Police Stop Ambulance Enroute to Hospital

    Old woman tasered by US Cops after calling them for help

  4. Youri Carma says:

    Cops Taser Pregnant Woman

    Cops taser son as father helplessly drowns!

    Police Detain Bleeding Pregnant Woman Whos Baby Later Died

    Etc ….. Etc ….. Bottemline America is Gone!

  5. Youri Carma says:

    Hurricane Katrina Firearms Confiscation

    National Guard Confiscating Guns in New Orleans

    New Orleans cops could be charged with murder in post Katrina Shooting Deaths

  6. Youri Carma says:

    Katrina Cops lined up “like at a firing range” and shot unarmed mentally retarded man in the back

    5 officers charged in post-Katrina fatal shooting

  7. dan valley says:

    Monday, August 30, 2010
    Commerce Secretary rails against ‘scourge of music piracy’

    Fairey et al v. The Associated Press
    Share | Claim that iconic Obama poster infringes on AP photo copyright

  8. farang says:

    Stacy: listen carefully to what I am saying: in this video is hidden the proof of 9/11/01.

    I located something on this video years ago…..proved it, and it went nowhere with the “Truther” crowd.

    If you think farang has any IQ at all, listen to what I am saying: start the video. When the video reaches the 1:57 mark, put your finger on the play/pause button and rapidly stop and start it.

    Do you see what farang saw?

    Look closely, focus on the middle of the screen from 1:57-2:04.

    Do you see it????

  9. chalcedonite says:

    In order to be as god you must revolt against God. In order to do that you must deceive the people. It is religious to the core. That is why in order to be as god you must control money, mass media, judges, political and religious leaders, and schools.

  10. TJ says:

    @ farang

    dream on

  11. farang says:

    I’ve read they are pumping seawater into some of the huge oil fields of Saudi Arabia because it is not producing what it used to, and they can’t increase the rate of extraction to meet demand because that tends to collapse the field. Oil-based energy is a Dead Man Walking. How long? Left my Madame Cleo garb in closet today.

    Damn good thing Reagan rescued us from the clutches of the idiotic policies of Jimmy Carter: that fool had the silly “Alternative Energy” program focused on reducing dependency on Middle East oil, and actually reduced the imported oil his last two years, the only time in US history…the fool. He tricked me into voting for him twice.

    Luckily I saw the error of my ways: Ronnie made us feel good. Oh, it felt soooo gooood…until the bills came due. Like that night at the Seoul karaoke club……wow……then the Visa bill arrives.

    Who REALLY got [email protected]?

  12. MirrorMirror says:

    EU austerity policies risk civil war in Greece, warns top German economist Dr Sinn

    LOL … was actually expecting to hear from Dr. Evil

  13. George Sign says:

    The USA is using up all of the resources outside of America. They are using up the oil in the Middle East and when the Dollar collapses which is the design of Greenspan and his helpers there will be a new Gold backed Dollar. The old Dollar will become worthless and China Jaapan and Saudi Arabia will be holding worthless paper and the good ‘ol US of A will suddenly discover they have massive resources at home. This will probably happen Feb 2011.

  14. Mother Earth says:

    Oil should be banned as a weapon of mass destruction..

  15. MirrorMirror says:

    @George Sign … ditto .

    The question is whether war can be avoided the moment the fraud goes public.

  16. Mother Earth says:

    In the end the US became a pretty bellydancer in a bedouin tent..Perhaps a great lesson: trinkets do work..

  17. George Sign says:


    That is why the US has spent so much on armament but is worried that China might catch-up. That is the reason China (and Russia) are frantically increasing their Gold stocks for the moment the Dollar goes “golden”. The USA has already printed these Dollars.

  18. MirrorMirror says:

    @George Sign …. Cheney : We don’t have to worry about deficits

    @23:50 … Paul O’Niel talking about his “getting fired” by Bush/Cheney
    @25:20 … “Cheney : We don’t have to worry about deficits”

    So here we have it from the horse’s mouth .

  19. MirrorMirror says:

    @George Sign …. Jon Perkins’ book “Confessions of an Eco. Hitman” … basically admits the same .

  20. George Sign says:

    When the “old” Dollar collapses (maybe Feb 2011). ALL currencies will follow. Gold will go through the roof and Silver which has been manipulated for years and is now almost non-existent will be valued 5 times the Gold price. Silver could be valued at US6000 an ounce so if you hole US100,000 in Silver bullion it will be worth US60,000,000. There will be a massive transfer of wealth to those who own real precious metal. All people holding ETF’s GLD and SLV will lose their shirts.

  21. MirrorMirror says:

    Interesting links today …

    Karzai urges Afghans not to panic as bank withdrawals accelerate

    This year, US public debt could reach end game,-US-public-debt-could-reach-end-game-17781.html

    Financial crisis?
    It’s a pyramid, stupid.

  22. Marc Authier says:

    It.s called PEAK PAPER MirrorMirror.

  23. stacyherbert says:

    @F. Beard – YES! Thanks for that info re: Koch brothers financing attacks on Ron Paul; I tell you THEY are the guys financing Freedom Works which trains the Tea Party people. They have totally stolen the entire movement from Ron Paul and not many of them know they are now bots controlled by these two secretive billionaires. I wouldn’t let anyone know you don’t like the billionaires behind the Tea Party though as you are likely to get verbally kneecapped if you dare say so in public. Believe me, I’ve got the emails to prove it.

  24. F. Beard says:

    You have no following. snoot

    I don’t need or desire one. We are entering a depression is all and it irritates me. The GD blighted my parents lives and caused WWII. There is a way out, IMO. The moral backing for it comes from the Bible which commands against loaning at interest to one’s countrymen and also commands debt forgiveness.

  25. frances snoot says:

    You have no following.

    Why do you believe I wrote that in reference to your person, FBeard.

  26. Fiatmentalist says:

    “They have totally stolen the entire movement from Ron Paul ”

    I dont remember the tea party being Ron Pauls “movement”. A bunch of peps with libertarian values might have kicked this off and given name, but Ron Pauls attitude to this mass movment was always one of indifference. Guess he smelled the wind.

    “not many of them know they are now bots ”

    You mean they cant define themselves polliticaly? Who can? Or is bot pc for sheep?

  27. Fiatmentalist says:


    welcome back

  28. jischinger says:

    “Blair, who was greeted by about 50 protesters at the RTE studios, also denied he had “blood on his hands” and said he didn’t believe he was a “war criminal”.”

    I don’t know what bothers me more, the fact that he is in complete denial or that only 50 protesters showed up.

  29. TheFlyingDutchman says:

    I laugh at anyone that continues to buy US debt. When we roll over on China, Japan, and the UK just imagine the domino effect, that is, if you can!

    As the old addage goes
    “theres a sucker born every minute”

  30. F. Beard says:

    Why do you believe I wrote that in reference to your person, Snoot

    While you speak far less clearly than Cleetus and Steller, it seemed clear enough. Them two could tech you a thing or two about clear, direct speaking.

    Good evening.

  31. the underfundedmentalist says:

    President Goodluck decides to stay in office a little while longer, invites Corporate Coup: Shell And Goldman Sachs Execs Become Ministers In Nigeria’s New Cabinet

  32. Marc Authier says:

    @Nama Nama
    Santé ! Zdorova ! Skoll ! Cheers ! How do you say it in gaelic ? 🙂

  33. In the end, we are all damned says:

    @Youri Carma

    Thanks. Now I think I am going to be sick! A simple “yes” or “I think so” will do in the future. I will have to be more clear…lest I find myself feeling nauseated again!

    Really though…thanks for all the links! I had no idea.

  34. Randy says:

    Oil company owned by Tea Party’s billionaire brothers gives $1 million to fight California’s climate change law

    An oil company headed by conservative billionaires David and Charles Koch has contributed $1 million to the campaign to suspend the state’s landmark climate change law.

  35. Randy says:

    the rest…

    An oil company headed by conservative billionaires David and Charles Koch has contributed $1 million to the campaign to suspend the state’s landmark climate change law.

    Flint Hills Resources does not have any oil interests in California but is a big opponent of climate change legislation around the country.

    On Thursday, the Kansas-based refining and chemicals manufacturer threw its weight behind Proposition 23, the ballot initiative that seeks to suspend California’s greenhouse gas reduction law until the economy improves.

    “This is a significant game changer,” said Craig Holman, a campaign finance expert at Public Citizen, a Washington, D.C.-based consumer advocacy group. “They want to stop the state that’s well known for leading the way when it comes to climate change legislation.”

    California secretary of state’s office records show that Flint Hills is now the third largest backer of Proposition 23, behind Texas-based oil companies Valero Energy Corp. and Tesoro Corp.

    On Thursday, Tesoro also donated $1 million to the Yes on 23 Committee, bringing its total contributions to about $1.5 million. Overall, the committee has raised more than $8.2 million, with nearly half, or about $4 million, coming from Valero.

    Flint Hills spokeswoman Katie Stavinoha said the company believes that California’s law sets a bad precedent for the rest of the nation.

    “Flint Hills believes that implementing the law will cause significant
    job losses and higher energy costs,” Stavinoha said.

    Anita Mangels, spokeswoman for the Yes on 23 Committee, said Koch Industries shares many of the job-preservation goals of her group’s 300 members.

    Established in 1940, Flint Hills, a wholly owned subsidiary of Koch Industries Inc., operates oil refineries in Texas, Minnesota and Alaska, as well as chemical manufacturing plants in Michigan, Illinois and Texas.

    Koch Industries is one of the nation’s largest privately held companies. Its holdings include Brawny and Dixie paper products and the Lycra fiber and Stainmaster carpet brands.

    According to Forbes magazine, brothers David and Charles Koch are tied as the 24th richest men in world, each with a net worth of about $17.5 billion. Among beneficiaries of their bankroll is the Tea Party movement.

    Signed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger in 2006, the state’s climate change law, or Assembly Bill 32, aims to reduce carbon emissions statewide to 1990’s level by the end of the decade.

    Proposition 23 seeks to suspend the law until the statewide unemployment rate hits 5.5 percent for four quarters in a row.

    Proponents of the climate change law say that Koch and other oil companies are trying to preserve their profits at the expense of the growing clean-tech industry and health concerns of California residents.

    “What Proposition 23 is trying to do is to move our state backward,” said Tom Steyer, co-chairman of the No on 23 Committee.

    With a little more than two months before the elections, the battle over Proposition 23 is shaping up to be one of the most expensive ballot initiatives this year.

    Supporters of the climate change law — which include environmentalists, clean-tech advocates and private investors — have pledged nearly $10 million to defeat Proposition 23.

    Steyer, a San Francisco hedge fund operator, has pledged $5 million. Other notable donors include:

    — Julie Packard, philanthropist and daughter of Hewlett-Packard Co. cofounder David Packard, who contributed $101,894 on Aug. 27.

    — San Francisco private equity investor Warren Hellman, who donated $75,000 on Aug. 16.

    — Silicon Valley venture capitalist John Doerr, who donated $500,000 on Aug. 6.

    — Wendy Schmidt, philanthropist and wife of Google Inc. co-founder Eric Schmidt, who gave $500,000 on June 16.

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