Peddling the war on that noun: Murdering, torturing and spying

Stacy Summary:  Here is a thread devoted to the state murdering, torturing and spying on us all, not just the victims of the fake war on terror.  Trafficking in fakes, of course, is far more profitable than the real thing.

53 comments on “Peddling the war on that noun: Murdering, torturing and spying
  1. Bill Stewart says:

    So far no false flag attacks at the YVR Olympics.

    Still, there are about 10 more days to go.

    One can only hope luck holds…

  2. Dedo says:

    I remember back in ’97, reading that the authorities could listen in on conversations using phones, even when the receiver was down.
    I’m thinking this story is put out there, to test public reaction!
    What with all the reality shows etc,,I think the public are quite nonchalant regarding intrusions to privacy.
    Slowly, slowly catchy monkey : )

  3. Mep says:

    @ Stacy – Speaking of torture, did you catch the Justice Dept’s Friday news dump? The torture memo writers are guilty of nothing but poor judgment.

  4. Mep says:

    Wow, I didn’t know that John Yoo actually suggested creating fake terrorist organizations.

  5. Kevin McCashion says:

    I am at CPAC in DC. Judge Napolitano said lovers of freedom shouldn’t even be in the same building as those who would applaud Dick Cheney.

  6. Kevin McCashion says:

    Ron Paul and the Judge also cited testimony by the administration that not only did they admit that they had the right to assassinate with predator drones but that they also have the right to target American citizens with those same assassinations and there were three Americans that were actually on their list.

  7. stacyherbert says:

    @Kevin McCashion – good for that! I was sickened and scared to see the headlines that there were wild cheers for Cheney telling him to Run! Run! Run!

  8. i'm Alan Partridge says:

    and on the liabilities side of the War Inc balance sheet,

    http://cbs13.com/wireapnational/The.price.of.2.1505077.html

  9. Phil /Germany says:

    PS@Anybody know anything about this website?

    Iraq war to be rebranded ‘Operation New Dawn’
    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5g1Bg95t6yV42auorK9zui8XPe6Pg

    The Dawn of a New Day
    …Could you put on your website that I am back with two new products. The “Dawn” video is a 90 min. video on the subject that got me cut off of Coast to Coast with George Noory. I also talked about doing this video on the Alex Jones show, but now it’s done. Give me a mailing address for both you and Bill and I’ll send you both a copy. The link below is for ordering. Thank you again….
    http://projectcamelot.org/index.html

    3/4 of the way down

  10. Mother Earth says:

    @Mep

    Yes, apparently people in the judiciary don’t need to have excellend judgment when asked for their opinion. Disgusting! It’s good news for budding brainsurgeons like me, because now I can say I have poor medical skills and still pass the medical associations criteria (after all, they just form an opinion, which has no bearing on their actions I suppose).

    Republicans can’t see the Haliburton made dunghill they are sliding down, they think they have the wind in their back. What would bring the change is if they had memories, but those are being reset by every emotional twist and turn the party can find to throw at them. A media blackout would cure a lot of that..

  11. nobody says:

    US school district spied on students at home using remote access to webcams?

    What a free world!! They are busy to spreading the same kind of freedom around world right?. The story about the assissination in Dubai is scary too. And i bet England,Ireland France and Germany wouldn’t accuse Israel seriouly. According to the article Stacy has linked above, Isreal is saying that British government had the foreknowledge of the assassination of the top official of the Palestian group Hamas. Then only reaction by British government is denial, and Miliband is going to see and discuss it with Israeli foreinn minister in Brussel several days later??

    Think about it. IF, IF Iranian secert sevice had used those countries’s citizen’s passports for assassination. MSM would have been on fire for 6 months.
    it’s reaaly getting difficult not to be scastic these days. Mad world !

    Yeah, the tail wagging the dog. Just accept it.

  12. Mep says:

    @ Mother Earth – Disgusting, indeed. The Justice Department has just decided that it does not have to seriously investigate or prosecute war crimes. Eric Holder, by law, has to investigate and prosecute. And the President is not supposed to have anything to do with it. Imagine if the “poor judgment” excuse was allowed to fly in the Nuremberg trials. If anybody anywhere in the world was still taking the US seriously, or looking up to us as a country devoted to the rule of law, they should definitely stop doing so now.

  13. nobody says:

    For this wonderfully fucked up world, i dedicate the song to everyone “Mad world” by Gary Jules
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N3N1MlvVc4

  14. ronron says:

    no change required. PIIGGS.

  15. Carmen Azul says:

    This report must be for the base. :)

  16. maxkeiser says:

    Max –

    Great work!

    Questions:

    What will happen when the US government defaults? How will that effect us all? What will it look like
    out there?

    Will the dollar collapse at the same time? How will that effect us all? Etc.

    And — What will the government do? Or will it also be collapsed (i.e. gone)?

    How can the US fight another BIG war when we’re broke?

    I keep looking for answers to these questions. It would be great if you and Stacy could talk about this.

    Thanks for all you’re doing!

    Christi (Santa Fe)

  17. maxkeiser says:

    Hi Max
    I have been reading your site for a while, I find you and Stacey very smart but have one question for you. Why have you chosen to live in France? The reason why I ask you this is because I have been looking for (quiet sometime) a new place to live. I hope my question is not to stupid.

    Thank you
    Genoveva

  18. maxkeiser says:

    Hey Max!

    My name is Palli and I come from Iceland. I am really a fan ofyour shows and what you put out there. For me you are the Hunter S. Thompson of economics. A true maverick (don´t know what that means, sorry). I have just returned to iceland after living 16 years around Europe to witness the circus. And oh my god is there not a new word for banana republic? Its like people in suits (the left/cleaners) running around with their underwear on fire on their heals. Jeez what a show. Anyways I want to elaborate on an idea that is so simple but yet so real.

    The next paragraph is about me and as I know you are very busy just opt it out if you don´t have time, but I put it in there to see my perspective.

    Well I started my life growing up in Iceland until I was 20. Then I went to Prague to study social psychology. Then I figured I didn´t want to be anybody (except self of cours), but the life I was probably going to lead seemed boring at the time. So I stuck out my finger and wiggled around europe, doing all kind of shitty work etc. But for me it gave me value to learn how different “low level” people think and the way they talk. I found there the core of the country I was living in. Fortunately for me languages are easy to learn. But I got stuck with money in Denmark. Starting saving for a rent and getting good money but they just disappeared just as easily. I have never been so happy or free as when I had little money. But thats money of course. Just like you appreciate beauty through suffering. ladida. What is new in this shithole paradigm I am finding my self in? But it is still a fantastic one when you think about. But it is totally wrong and it needs to be changed I think. As I am now 37 this has to change so the adventure of life can go on. People are getting so fucking boring you know, even my fucking family is like tv drones. SO???

    My totally simple idea is through democracy (so-called) we will vote for zeroing out all numbers of money. The argument is that of course it will take the power from the fucking (sorry for that) elite and bring it closer to the people. Of course it is not “the” solution, but it is a step in the right way I think. Like when they created the internet some lab dorks were saying; “What the fuck is wrong with faxing”. I don´t think this is a solution but it is a way to empower people to think that it is us that own this planet together. It is simple but powerful. But there has to be an aftermath where you can have your ingenious good ideas/intentions

    The reason I sent this mail was, like your guest mr. Bowles said, if you stick wood in fire it is not stealing fire. I believe all info should be
    free. How stupid is intellectual property, which is based on other peoples intellectual property in the first case. But I would love if you could elaborate on this idea in concerns of the economics to come after that. If the people have an idea of having the power collectively, we can move forward. If you take my simple idea you don´t have to include me in it. It´s for you and what you can do for it. If not! We are still seeking for a new world.

    Here is my freefilm I directed and loved to put on the web for free. My version of Bunuels, Andalousin Dog. In 2005 I was very concerned at the time with the marital hiatus of our species.
    http://www.youtube.com/user/rassharapika#p/u

    Love and respect
    Palli

  19. maxkeiser says:

    Max and Stacy,

    My husband and I are your biggest fans….not a day goes by that we don’t listen to the Kaiser Report or check out one of your videos. Something very worrying happened to us this past week. My husband watched your toilet paper video on U Tube and enjoyed it so much, he
    sent the link me and a good friend. I wasn’t able to watch it and as soon as the friend tried to watch the video from the link, his computer was zapped. He was able to turn the computer on, but not access any of the programs on his computer. A couple of days later, my husband’s computer with an almost new mother board died. The difference in the computers is that my husband’s works on Linux and our friend has XP. We are very aware of the Predator’s capabilities as for as controlling the markets, internet, etc. and would not be surprised if such was the case. If so, this could be the end of responsible reporting world wide and the worst catastrophe to man kind. I am sending this e-mail because my husband’s computer is still “dead”.My husband’s e-mail address is xxxx@xxxx.com

    Like yourself, we are ex-pats living in France (I am American and my husband British)

    Your friends in France,

    N & P

  20. maxkeiser says:

    hi Max

    Former Australian Prime Minister Paul Keating said ” Australia is the
    arse end of the world”

    Is this the real reason why Australia apparently escaped the global
    recession know one really cares what happens down hear?

    Would it be possible to dedicate one of your shows to Australia’s
    economy and financial situation for your Australian viewers so that we
    might get some kind of insight as to what’s really happening in
    regards to Australia.

    R.

  21. maxkeiser says:

    Max,

    I love your program but besides defining the new war between savers and speculators, you never say what you should do to save your savings.
    With Stacey’s findings were can we go with the money? gold , physical?

    in addition , I felt very bad when you “begged” to the Chinese government to euthanize the US on Feb 16th. why? What is the gain of that?

    on the other hand, there is something that concerns me. Do you know the level of US gold reserves? is that 8000 tons?

    Thx

  22. maxkeiser says:

    dear max,

    ICESAVE – New York Times: England and Netherlands make Iceland “An offer they can’t refuse.” (They really said that…)

    “The source described it as “an offer they can’t refuse,” specifically
    designed to address the Icelandic government’s primary concerns about
    the existing arrangement while guaranteeing a reasonable rate of
    interest for its creditors.”

    And guess what the only difference is from before? A FLOATING interest
    rate, sounds great huh? Sorta reminds one of ARMs in the US. Maybe not
    such a better offer after all???

    article link:
    http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2010/02/19/business/business-uk-iceland-icesave.html

    original “offer they can’t refuse” link:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrLemLlBloY

  23. Warning or Threat? says:

    Apologies if this is old news or repeat, but seems to be significant and ignored:

    “Counter-terrorism expert” says US to be hit by 6-8 simultaneous attacks in next 90 days.

    Considering the sources and the propagator it seems to be other than a warning – ?

    And what coincidental timing – same time as a believable pretext is needed to “subdue” Iran. “Nothin’ gets them Amaaricuns riled up and lookin’ to kill anything, than an attack on their Walmarts (er -homeland security).”

    Maybe just the usual “psychological shepherding” of the sheeples -back onto the path to “bring democracy to the Middle East” (“…we give you democracy and bankrupting credit, you give us oil and resources, and don’t reject the mighty green FRNs – or else we send in Hillary, the bombs and the Marines!”)

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,161962,00.html

  24. Dustin says:

    @Phil germany

    the concept of the iesreal state attacking muslims and thus sarting world war 3 was written about in 1871 with the words of Albert Pike. see a part of his letter below.

    . For a short time, this letter was on display in the British Museum Library in London, and it was copied by William Guy Carr, former Intelligence Officer in the Royal Canadian Navy.

    “The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the “agentur” (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions.”

    “The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm.”

    “The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the “agentur” of the “Illuminati” between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.”

    As you can see, these plans have been around for a long time, So im not surprised if there are claims that a third war will be started with aim of crushing religion and bringing the world violently into a one world goverment regime.

  25. Veritatis says:

    A false flag attack is one in which someone is wrongly blamed and held to account for i. If you consider the financial crisis, nobody is really being blamed by the MSM or held accountable by governments. It’s a series of semi-anonymous attacks in plain sight.

  26. Dustin says:

    Operation “new dawn”??

    Yet more masonic terminology. Considering Mr Albert Pike was the head of world freemasonary, seems these guys have things ontrack.

  27. Palantíri says:

    The state goes new ways to earn more money, two week old news story but wow, in Canada . . . ? I would not have expected this coming from there:

    Policiers à louer
    http://lejournaldemontreal.canoe.ca/actualites/regional/montreal/archives/2010/02/20100204-045834.html

    “La police de Montréal ouvre la machine pour commercialiser ses services. Aux prises avec d’importantes coupures budgétaires, le SPVM compte plus que jamais sur la vente de ses services pour se financer. Bienvenue dans SPVM inc.”
    “On offrait déjà le policier armé pour prévenir les vols dans un commerce, pour faire la circulation lors d’événements privés, les escortes policières, la protection rapprochée.”

    or English:

    Montreal’s police for rent
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/expat/expatnews/7256282/Montreals-police-for-rent.html

    ” If you fear a terrorist attack or industrial espionage, the Montreal police will now come to your aid, evaluating the risks and offering security advice – for a fee.”
    ” The Montreal police has begun a massive promotional campaign to boost commercial revenues as well as its profile, going as far as asking all of its members to search out new business opportunities.”

  28. "Kill the Big Chicken" says:

    Old, but timeless news about states’ use of terrorism against its own peoples:

    “Killing a big chicken to scare the monkeys”

    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/IF06Ad03.html

  29. stacyherbert says:

    @Palantíri – missed that one, thanks!

  30. sam says:

    when out with a friend down the pub, ask them what do you call this?

    - wave you wrists in a aggressive manor, shouting at them.

    Terror wrists!

  31. Fibon11235 says:

    @mike/Liverpool
    If they find oil i would expect the £ to be more than safe wouldn’t you?

    They start drilling tomorrow ?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8525734.stm

  32. SuperGeek says:

    @sam
    huh, or you can hold touch your index finger and thumb together, and push it towards somones face and ask, what’s that? answer, a vicious circle!!!

  33. FranSix says:

    Alien Scientist covers the 9/11 terrorist attacks, covering known facts, and some unknown ones, primarily adding little known information on what kind of work was completed on the World Trade Center prior to collapse.

    Two Parts On You Tube

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW23PuBKiA0

  34. GGees says:

    Forget CDOs and other inventions of the great credit bubble. That’s all old hat. Investment bankers are moving on to an area of securities trading that is potentially even more lucrative, and what’s more, even has a social value – saving the planet. Or supposedly so, anyway. I’ve long had my suspicions about the great carbon trading bubble

    So that’s what Blankfein meant by doing Gods work!! hes saving our friggen planet!

  35. Casper Studly says:

    “Murdering.. torturing.. spying..”

    No. Logically.. first ya spy.. then ya torture.. THEN ya murder.

    See.. ya can’t torture a corpse.. and ya can’t make a corpse if ya don’t know where to find the pre-corpse.

    See what a university edjamacation does for yas?

    Meow.

  36. g7enn says:

    Notice how they are creating an Iran crisis and subconsciously stirring the Muslim terrorist card?

    *WHO REALLY BACKS THE MUSLIMS IN IRAN?

    http://www.parenting-healthy-children.com/Parenting.xml

  37. Marc Authier says:

    The STATE is the terrorist. THE STATE OUR ENEMY.

  38. How many nouns can the US wage war on at the same time? That appears to be a function of the American public’s attention span. How many
    maxkeisers are there?

  39. I see. Max’ channels his e-mail correspondents.

  40. (Pardon my gratuitous apostrophe).

  41. ‘I felt very bad when you “begged” to the Chinese government to euthanize the US on Feb 16th. why? What is the gain of that?’

    To pull the plug on funding for the US war machine. Maybe it can still be stopped before it butchers yet more millions of civilians in pursuit of US wars on nouns. And to save the real economy and middle class in the US.

  42. @Dustin, Carr did not quote this purported letter from Pike until after WWII.

    ‘Carr states that he learned of this conspiracy from a letter, allegedly written by Pike and addressed to Italian revolutionary leader Giuseppe Mazzini. He states that he learned about this alleged letter from the anti-Mason, Cardinal Caro y Rodriguez of Santiago, Chile, author of The Mystery of Freemasonry Unveiled (Hawthorne, CA, Christian Book Club of America, 1971). However, Carr’s later book, Satan, Prince of This World (written in 1959), includes the following footnote: “The Keeper of manuscripts recently informed the author that this letter is NOT catalogued in the British Museum Library. It seems strange that a man of Cardinal Rodriguez’s knowledge should have said that it WAS in 1925.”[20] More recently, the British Museum confirmed in writing to researcher Michael Haupt that such a document has never been in their possession.’

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Guy_Carr#Main_theories

  43. g7enn says:

    Why hasn’t this video gone viral?

    John F Kennedy’s bodyguards being told to stay away from JFK

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFpPjjKdUds

  44. Chris says:

    Dedo,

    I remember the report you are talking about. What I recall is that the report revealed that the Romanian secret police rigged every phone in the country to transmit, even when hung up. They then had people who could listen to every house in the country.

    Its pretty simple, I suppose: a phone is just a transmitter with a wire. When you hang it up, it creates a signal “don’t transmit”. And when you lift it, a signal saying “transmit”. However the phone could rigged to received that signal from the outside line, or to simply always transmit. The CIA, etc. can figure this out of course. To pull this off they would have to insert this hardware into every phone, which could be done by slipping a small chip into the manufacturing process; ie have to controll ore or more of the major phone manufacturers. (there are many other ways of evesdropping of course)

  45. Marc Authier says:

    Prepare for Nazi America. Obama is indeed a nazi. So when will the Washington nazis be cutting the internet ? A month from now.

  46. Marc Authier says:

    Joe Stack.

    It gets stranger by the minute. The building was empty. Know why. The employees get in the building only a 10:00 am. The plance crashed before. A lot a september 11th scenario. Strange indeed . A desparate man crashes in an empty building. It’s an inside job.

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